I'm not quite ready for a vote on the API, because I think what we'd be voting on is still under active discussion.

We could decide under what criteria we will be evaluating these API changes. I propose they be:

 1. Can we get a GA release out by August?
 2. Will at least WebWork 2 apps have an easy (as in hours, not days) 
transition?

I realize that might mean we have to put of some more drastic changes to the next release, and it may result in some compromises, but in the end, I think it is more important to get a usable, timely release out to our users, and ensure their migration will be smooth. Migration, in particular, is a key concern because it is an important advantage we could hold, as other frameworks tend to require a complete redesign and re-education of developers. I want Struts Action Framework 2 to be seen as easy and powerful, not just from a feature standpoint, but also migration, education, and "conceptual space" one.

This doesn't preclude making sweeping API changes that the average users either won't see or aren't noticed since the old objects/interfaces still work correctly. The question then becomes one of energy available to offset new changes with proper backwards-compatibility support.

Struts users have been looking for a smooth transition to next-generation technologies for some time now, and I think we've let them down. It is time to deliver.

Don

Gabe wrote:
I agree both that this is the core decision that has to be made now and that we 
should push some of this stuff into XWork.

I won't vote though, because I've learned we're discussing not voting :-D

----- Original Message ----
From: Jason Carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: dev@struts.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2006 4:52:48 PM
Subject: Re: [action2] Public API first draft


I think this is the core decision that needs to be made right now. I'm not sure 
which way I'm leaning on this, but we need to pick a direction. If we're going 
to redesign the API and get things right, then lets decide to do that and 
re-open WebWork to bug fixes and more releases in the meantime. Either way I'd 
like to push some of this stuff into XWork, not just leave it in SAF2.
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