> Jason Carreira wrote:
>
> Either way, I highly recommend reading the two
> threads linked to by this 
> Cocoon vote to use the servlet classes directly:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg4
> 1132.html
> 
> The cocoon folks are very smart and have been
> tackling this problem for 
> years.  They had their own Environment abstraction
> meant to support 
> servlets and portlets, but also command line
> executions.  If they think 
> it is better to switch, I think we should take that
> very seriously.
> 
> Don
> 

No offense to the cocoon people, but I don't give a crap what they decided. 
This isn't some far reaching and complicated philosophical thing. It's how do 
we deal with two parallel and very similar concepts in a common way while still 
allowing you to get to the native API if you really really need to. That seems 
pretty clear to me, as does the implied solution.

If we just do what everyone else has done, we'll end up with what everyone else 
has. No offense, but I have no desire to use Cocoon, nor to build another 
version of it.
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