I know i'm not really much involved with Tiles lately, but i'd just
like to say that i think the idea of a topic-centered umbrella project
is a bad idea and not especially likely to be favored by the ASF these
days.

IIRC, the discussions about forming a "Jakarta Web Components" group
were not about forming a new subproject, but were part of Henri's
vision for a flatter, component-centric Jakarta structure that had
quasi-formal "groupings" (which could potentially even overlap) to
conceptually organize the subprojects.  It was definitely not planned
that JWC would be a formal subproject containing sub-sub-projects.

i don't have time to discuss this heavily atm, but i'll try to find
links to the threads in question...

On 11/28/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since we've failed to build consensus, I've published a versioned
> snapshot that will have to suffice for 2.0.2 and I will begin to
> drive the effort for TLP :( - it's not my preference but it will
> have to work.

Hang on, slow down just a bit :-)  Before we jump off the TLP cliff
let's make sure we know all the options and have consensus from
everybody involved.

Here's the viable choices as I see them:

1)  Jakarta Web Components Subproject - What components will make up
this list?  Who all needs to be involved in the discussion?
2)  Apache Web Components TLP - What components will make up this
list?  Who needs to be involved in the discussion?  What's the
process to proceed?
3) Apache Tiles TLP - Seems we could do this here and now and submit
a proposal to the board.  Who else should we bring into the discussion?

Options that have been discussed and rejected:

1)  Struts subproject - Struts does not need to become an umbrella.
2)  Jakarta Commons component - Tiles is more of a framework than
most of the components under commons.  Several people have voiced
their objection to this approach.
3)  Struts2 Tiles Plugin - Removes the "standalone" nature of Tiles.

So... of the three viable options, let's discuss and decide where to
go from here.

Greg




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