On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, at 12:52 PM, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
> On 09/12/2015 13:16, Tony Stevenson wrote:
> > Francesco,
> >
> > As I said in HipChat, I'd love to be able to say that we can do this.
> > But the fact is right now infra are tied up for at least 6 months.
> >
> > I think the best way to gain any traction on this is for the Syncope PMC
> > to stand up a PoC that replaces 1 (or more) of the components used.
> 
> As anticipated via HipChat, this is actually the deep sense of my 
> proposal, e.g. the direct engagement of Syncope PMC - not only, 
> actually, but anyone interested - for supporting the infra team.
> 
> A PoC sounds like a straight, concrete and limited way to start 
> approaching IdM at ASF with Syncope.
> 
> > i.e.  these might include:
> >
> >   - https://id.apache.org  (The end-user part of it)
> >   - acreq - The user account request workflow
> >   - Identity Management as a whole.
> >   - PMC karma management
> >
> > I will be more than happy to help guide the PMC, and give you an ASF VM
> > on which you can stand up your PoC, and guide you on the business logic
> > already in place for any of these tools.
> 
> That's good - IMO we need:
> 
>   1. a place where to ask for information, provide feedback, etc. (shall 
> we keep crossposting infra@ and dev@syncope?)

Keep infra@ in the loop.  If we start crossing into anything sensitive
we will move that part of the thread to a more sensible location. 

>   2. VM

Open a JIRA issue for this, and one can be provisioned for you. 

>   3. SCM

Ideally you'd work by submitting patches against the
infrastructure-puppet repo for the deployment and config.  

>   4. (possibly) some issue tracker (not necessarily JIRA, something 
> simpler would fit the job as well)

JIRA is the infra preference as in we use that today. I'd just use the
JIRA project and move on. Less hassle. 

>   5. (nice to have) some wiki (not necessarily Confluence, something 
> simpler would fit the job as well)

Again, you can use the infra space on cwiki. 

> > For a long time we have tried to manage identity, or some cut-down
> > version of it, solely via LDAP. Then we added id.apache.org, and then
> > acreq was added.  They were all really disjointed efforts.  If we can
> > bring all this under one roof, and make it usable I think it will be a
> > win.
> >
> > The idea of a PoC is to be able to demonstrate that Syncope could
> > basically be dropped in, and replace one of these components.
> >
> > We'd also want some decent handover and/or training from the Syncope
> > community.  I'm not sure we'd accept it if the community wanted to
> > support it on it's own, because the sad fact is people move on, and we
> > would be left with a critical piece of the jigsaw remaining unsupported.
> 
> Agree on this last point as well: I'd suggest to identify someone from 
> the infra team which could follow activities, provide inputs, etc since 
> the beginning.

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