tamaya config cdi -> cdi package? tamaya pojo binding -> binding package?
annotation is way too generic to help anyone, it is like searching for "java" on google now Romain Manni-Bucau @rmannibucau http://www.tomitribe.com http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-12-03 21:57 GMT+01:00 Oliver B. Fischer <o.b.fisc...@swe-blog.net>: > @gerhard This is true but we should also think about the usability of an > API. Packages with too many elements are always a pain. It is even difficult > to browse the API documentation. > > And please keep in mind the question of the user: How can I control the > injection of configuration values? There do I have to look? > > And what is the search entered into Google: Tamaya config annotation > > The answer will be: the annotation package > > WDYT? > > Oliver > > Am 03.12.14 17:13, schrieb Gerhard Petracek: > >> @oliver: >> the point here is that it's a package which is only related to a technical >> concept of the language and not a "domain" concept/area/... . >> >> you can ask the same question you mentioned about interfaces, enums, >> exceptions,... >> >> regards, >> gerhard >> >> >> >> 2014-12-03 16:32 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <werner.k...@gmail.com>: >> >>> There are even a few cases like Java Batch JSR (353) where they put >>> annotations into a completely separate (OSGi/Maven) bundle. We may not >>> want >>> to go that far, but modularity as you also see with DeltaSpike is a good >>> thing. Whether you do this "horizontally" via a purpose or aim of >>> particular types or call it "annotation" at the end of the day is not as >>> important as designing it as modular as we can. >>> >>> And (despite it's Stephen's birthday today;-) try to avoid grave mistakes >>> of especially JSR 310 where top level core types have plenty of >>> dependencies to various sub-packages and far worse, the sort of "API" >>> interfaces themselves depend on implementation details like a Duration or >>> DateTime class;-O >>> >>> Werner >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Oliver B. Fischer < >>> o.b.fisc...@swe-blog.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> @gerhard: From the language view you are right. But programmers use such >>>> package names for navigation in IDEs and code. Their question is "Where >>>> a >>>> the annotations I can use?" The answer is "They are in the annotation >>>> package." >>>> >>>> Oliver >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 03.12.14 15:50, schrieb Gerhard Petracek: >>>> >>>> @romain: +1 >>>>> >>>>> we also dropped it in deltaspike, because annotations are a regular >>>>> part >>>>> of >>>>> the language (you also >don't< create packages like "classes", >>>>> "interfaces",...) >>>>> using an own package for annotations was "modern" with java 5 (since >>> >>> they >>>>> >>>>> were provided as "secondary" part in the beginning). >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> gerhard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-12-03 15:25 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <werner.k...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> See DeviceMap that's an option, too. >>>>>> >>>>>> A whole lot of JSRs do provide dedicated "annotation" or "exception" >>>>>> packages, but if we grouped it into some logical or semantic >>>>>> structure, >>>>>> why >>>>>> not. >>>>>> Probably best to sketch anything in that direction on the Wiki rather >>>>>> than >>>>>> passing around names and structures;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> we don't need to clutter anything, we need to split it as well >>>>>> (event, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> configuration, listener, ...we have several topics) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>> @rmannibucau >>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com >>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com >>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014-12-03 15:13 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <werner.k...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, there are 10 annotations now in the "annot" package right now. >>> >>> I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> would not want to clutter the top level with too many things, unless >>> >>> we >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> reduce the annotations to 2 or 3 it seems better to give them a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> separate >>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Werner >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if we can just not use it it is better. annotation doesn't bring >>> >>> much >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> information IMHO. Otherwise to stay consistent we put a package >>>>>>>>> classes, another one interfaces, an enumerations etc... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau >>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com >>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2014-12-03 15:02 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 for full names wherever possible and the norm. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed Dec 03 2014 at 8:54:58 AM Andres Almiray < >>> >>> aalmi...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 on "annotation" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> Java Champion; Groovy Enthusiast >>>>>>>>>>> http://jroller.com/aalmiray >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/aalmiray >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> What goes up, must come down. Ask any system administrator. >>>>>>>>>>> There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> binary, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> those who don't. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Werner Keil < >>> >>> werner.k...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Looking not only at Java EE ( >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/api/) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you'll >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> find plenty of packages from "javax.annotation" to >>>>>>>>>>>> "javax.servlet.annotation", etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I already raised this to Anatole before Tamaya, that >>>>>>>>>>>> "org.apache.tamaya.annot" should be called >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "org.apache.tamaya.annotation" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> too. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody against that?;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I could also create a JIRA ticket for that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Werner >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> N Oliver B. Fischer >>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany >>>> P +49 30 44793251 >>>> M +49 178 7903538 >>>> E o.b.fisc...@swe-blog.net >>>> S oliver.b.fischer >>>> J oliver.b.fisc...@jabber.org >>>> X http://xing.to/obf >>>> >>>> > > -- > N Oliver B. Fischer > A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany > P +49 30 44793251 > M +49 178 7903538 > E o.b.fisc...@swe-blog.net > S oliver.b.fischer > J oliver.b.fisc...@jabber.org > X http://xing.to/obf >
