On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:47:35 -0200, trsvax <[email protected]> wrote:
1. With things like mod_pagespeed now appearing it's not clear to me the
work of optimizing page load times belongs in the framework. Since there
is a common solution development time might be better spent elsewhere.
That's an Apache module and many people don't use it.
2. Abstraction layers require a lot of work and in most cases never
really solve the problem. If developers are going to provide modules
that have
Javascript enabled components how would they be written? If they only use
the abstraction layer then Tapestry will end up creating a complete
Javascript framework.
Nope, I don't think this is going to happen (creating a complete
JavaScript framework). Otherwise, it wouldn't be an abstraction layer. The
Java equivalent would be creating interfaces and have a jQuery
implementation of it, also a Prototype one.
3. If someone wants to include an existing jQuery component they will
need the jQuery library anyway and if Tapestry really is going to head
down the Bootstrap path the Bootstrap components are jQuery components.
That's the Bob Harner's point. What you said was valid for Prototype years
ago, is valid now, but it may not be valid in the next years. Again, we
would have people complaining that Tapestry uses a JavaScript framework
that isn't the best anymore.
I have a large site that is not jQuery and for it backward compatibility
is very important. What I would like to see is the Javascript part
become a
module and you just pick the one you want and go.
The abstraction layer would be needed for these modules to be written
without rewriting everything in jQuery and in Prototype.
The two javascript modules
I'd like to see are the old legacy Prototype one and a Bootstrap-jQuery
one. I don't see any benefit to an abstraction layer on the jQuery side.
Many
people know jQuery and it's well documented. Why introduce a layer that
just makes things more difficult?
The abstraction layer is intended to be used mostly by Tapestry itself,
probably component libraries too. Your code using jQuery would work
exactly the same. Of course, people could use the abstraction layer too,
but that's up to them.
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Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
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