Sorry - to be clear, I will start the VOTE thread once the IP Clearance form is complete.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 9:53 AM Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com> wrote: > Interestingly there is a similar process going on right now in the Apache > Cassandra community where they are going through IP Clearance. In watching > that it seems an actual VOTE thread is better than a "consensus" thread, so > I will start that now for completeness purposes and to lower friction as we > head toward incubator. > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:05 AM Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > 1. I can create a GitHub issue for adding the required headers in >> all the source files. >> >> excellent. I'm still not completely clear on that step being a >> prerequisite from the documentation as i saw some IP Clearance examples >> with and without it, but if I know one thing about Apache and its Ways, >> it's best not to use "what other projects do" as your reasoning for doing >> something. anyway, once that commit is in place we can reference that >> commit id (or any after it) for the donation. I suppose that if there were >> any other "clean-up" you wanted to do before that time, now would be the >> time to do it. >> >> > 2. There should be no issues there. >> > 3. The project has zero dependencies, so there should be no issues >> there either. >> >> well - that's easy then! >> >> a quick side note as we continue this process - the incubator site has >> regenerated itself so our page is available now: >> >> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/tinkerpop-gremlint.html >> >> you can see what steps remain - i've updated the document to reflect your >> responses to items 2 and 3 above. >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:19 AM Øyvind Sæbø <oyvind.s...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I'm following along. Cool to hear that we can move forward with >>> this. >>> >>> I and Ardoq (the company that the project will be donated on behalf of) >>> will start filling out the required ICLA >>> <https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf> and CCLA >>> <https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.pdf>. >>> >>> Regarding the points you mentioned: >>> >>> 1. I can create a GitHub issue for adding the required headers in all >>> the source files. >>> 2. There should be no issues there. >>> 3. The project has zero dependencies, so there should be no issues >>> there >>> either. >>> >>> >>> tir. 15. sep. 2020 kl. 15:48 skrev Stephen Mallette < >>> spmalle...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> > I've set up the IP Clearance form for incubator here (website hasn't >>> > generated the HTML yet I guess): >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/tinkerpop-gremlint.xml >>> > >>> > In the checklist of items there there are few items pertaining to the >>> code >>> > base itself: >>> > >>> > 1. Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been >>> > updated to reflect the new ASF copyright >>> > 2. Check and make sure that for all items included with the >>> distribution >>> > that is not under the Apache license, we have the right to combine with >>> > Apache-licensed code and redistribute. >>> > 3. Check and make sure that all items depended upon by the project is >>> > covered by one or more of the following approved licenses: Apache, BSD, >>> > Artistic, MIT/X, MIT/W3C, MPL 1.1, or something with essentially the >>> same >>> > terms. >>> > >>> > For item 1 I assume that means the code base state at which we accept >>> the >>> > it should have the ASF license header in it with it an appropriate >>> NOTICE >>> > file if necessary: >>> > >>> > https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html >>> > >>> > For 2 and 3, I don't think we have any issues there but would need to >>> > confirm. >>> > >>> > Øyvind, I believe you're on the list following along - could you please >>> > comment on the above for us? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 7:30 AM Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > As there haven't been any objections here, it sounds like we can go >>> ahead >>> > > with this process. I believe that we will need to go through the IP >>> > > Clearance process in incubator: >>> > > >>> > > https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ >>> > > >>> > > and engage Apache Infra about a gremlint.com domain transfer. And >>> then >>> > of >>> > > course we will need to figure out "how" we make it part of the code >>> base >>> > > (where it goes, how it fits in the release process, etc.) - my >>> preference >>> > > would be to see it come in on 3.4.x so that we can immediately have >>> an >>> > > official release of it, but we'll see how it goes. I suppose we will >>> > > continue to use this thread for all this sort of discussion for now >>> > unless >>> > > it gets too busy in which case we can spawn off other threads as >>> needed.. >>> > > >>> > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 6:31 PM David Bechberger < >>> d...@bechberger.com> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> I definitely agree that having this sort of tool freely available >>> would >>> > be >>> > >> very helpful to the community as a whole. >>> > >> >>> > >> I also would be able to help create the translator between GLV's and >>> > text >>> > >> representations as this is something I and many others have >>> struggled >>> > with >>> > >> many times. >>> > >> >>> > >> Thanks, >>> > >> Dave >>> > >> >>> > >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:14 PM Kelvin Lawrence >>> > <gfx...@icloud.com.invalid >>> > >> > >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> > I really like the idea of having an Apache TinkerPop hosted >>> linter and >>> > >> > style guide "enforcer". I have spent many wasted hours hand >>> formatting >>> > >> long >>> > >> > Gremlin queries people have asked me to look at over the years >>> and the >>> > >> > latest version of Gremlint makes that so much easier. I also >>> really >>> > like >>> > >> > the idea of extending the tool in the direction of "Gremlin >>> > converter". >>> > >> I >>> > >> > hear from a lot of users that porting from (let's say) Gremlin >>> Console >>> > >> to >>> > >> > Gremlin Python (and vice-versa) is painful and hard to get right. >>> > >> > >>> > >> > Cheers >>> > >> > Kelvin >>> > >> > >>> > >> > On 2020/09/10 11:07:46, Stephen Mallette <s...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >> > > I've had some on and off discussions with the developer of> >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > https://gremlint.com/> >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > whose name is Øyvind btw, about the possibility of making >>> gremlint >>> > >> the> >>> > >> > > canonical Gremlin code stylizer, and by that I mean, his >>> donating >>> > the >>> > >> > code> >>> > >> > > (and domain name) to the Apache Software Foundation under our >>> > project. >>> > >> > That> >>> > >> > > situation seems possible now and has been offered to the >>> TinkerPop> >>> > >> > > Community.> >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > I like the idea of bringing this code here because I feel our >>> style >>> > >> > guide> >>> > >> > > in Gremlin Recipes can only suggest convention and I'd much >>> like to >>> > >> see >>> > >> > a> >>> > >> > > code library managed by our project enforce a proper Gremlin >>> style >>> > >> that >>> > >> > can> >>> > >> > > be used not only as the neat single HTML page of gremlint.com >>> but >>> > >> also >>> > >> > as a> >>> > >> > > code library to Gremlin tool builders.> >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > I also see the opportunity to grow this tool into an online >>> > translator >>> > >> > to> >>> > >> > > get you from one Gremlin dialect to another which is a constant >>> > >> problem >>> > >> > for> >>> > >> > > users who are working with the tons of code examples in Gremlin >>> > Groovy >>> > >> > but> >>> > >> > > need to get a fast conversion to Python or Javascript. I know >>> I've >>> > had >>> > >> > that> >>> > >> > > problem myself on many occasions. An easy to use translator like >>> > this >>> > >> > would> >>> > >> > > help users realize that Gremlin in Groovy isn't so different >>> from >>> > >> > Gremlin> >>> > >> > > in any other language and that once you know the subtleties of >>> the> >>> > >> > > differences you can easily learn Gremlin from any example in any >>> > >> > language.> >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > I've not given a ton of thought to how gremlint would be >>> brought in, >>> > >> > where> >>> > >> > > it would go in our source code tree, or how it fits in to> >>> > >> > > release/deployment, but all that discussion can come later. I >>> think >>> > >> > that> >>> > >> > > for right now, we should simply find consensus on whether or >>> not to >>> > go >>> > >> > down> >>> > >> > > this path.> >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > Are there any thoughts or concerns about accepting this code >>> base >>> > and >>> > >> > the> >>> > >> > > gremlint.com domain?> >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > Cheers, >>> > >> > Kelvin >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > >>> >>
