Hi again, I'm here with an update on the Gremlint IP clearance process:) Yesterday I added the ASF source file headers to all the gremlint source files (link to commit <https://github.com/OyvindSabo/gremlint/commit/9010a706ceaa4102886294a860d5fbac152ca08b>) and all the gremlint.com source files (link to commit <https://github.com/OyvindSabo/gremlint.com/commit/60150a52d1baed330e16d2b70a8ac84f0aa5d4b4>) and updated both repos to use the Apache License Version 2.0. I hope I did that correctly. I also filled out the ICLA and will submit it together with the CCLA once it's signed by the right people at Ardoq. I was hoping to see this done by the end of the week, but seeing as it's only one workday left, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
fre. 27. nov. 2020 kl. 19:24 skrev Øyvind Sæbø <oyvind.s...@gmail.com>: > By >> the way, can gremlint still run completely in browser or does it need >> nodejs at this point? > > Yes, it's still possible to run it purely in the browser. This is still > how it's used on Gremlint.com. > > Would it help make any of your work easier if there were an actual antlr >> grammar for Gremlin? > > I'm not sure. I don't have any experience with it, but I'll look into it. > > .NET might not be hard to format but I sense translation will not be easy >> given how easily Gremlin loses types >> > Good point. > > As for progress news, we managed to wrap up the internal Gremlint IP > transfer process this week, so I hope we can fill out the ICLA and CCLA > next week. I'll add the ASF licence headers to the files early next week as > well. > > ons. 25. nov. 2020 kl. 12:57 skrev Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com > >: > >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 3:49 PM Øyvind Sæbø <oyvind.s...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Yes, I think it makes sense to continue with the general discussion in >> the >> > meantime:) It could also help make sure that I don't develop Gremlint >> in a >> > direction which will impose unnecessary restrictions in the future. I've >> > included some of my thoughts to your questions below: >> > >> > 1. >> > Gremlint is currently an installable JavaScript package, so for all >> > JavaScript projects using npm it can already be installed and called as >> a >> > function. I imagine it would also be easy to set up a >> Gremlint-as-a-service >> > API with Node.js to work with non-JavaScript projects. >> > >> >> At the risk of greater complexity to documentation generation perhaps a >> local nodejs service might work. A shame nashorn never quite took off or >> else we could have perhaps embedded it for more direct usage with Gremlin >> Console. I wonder if we could actually get rid of Gremlin Console usage >> though if there was a more convenient way to do formatting/translation. By >> the way, can gremlint still run completely in browser or does it need >> nodejs at this point? >> >> >> > 2 & 4. >> > I think Gremlint as a translator could make sense. Currently it >> essentially >> > just translates Groovy-Gremlin to an (almost) language-agnostic syntax >> > tree, adds formatting information based on a config object and then >> > recreates a Groovy Gremlin query. But it could just as well recreate the >> > query as a JavaScript or Python Gremlin query. I think it would be >> > relatively easy to make Gremlint translate from any Groovy-esque Gremlin >> > implementation to another Gremlin implementation by simply replacing the >> > function which is currently used to recreate the query from the >> formatted >> > syntax tree. >> > >> >> Would it help make any of your work easier if there were an actual antlr >> grammar for Gremlin? >> >> >> > 3. >> > I've already tried to keep Gremlint a bit language agnostic by leaving >> all >> > non-Gremlin code around and between queries unaltered. In most cases, >> any >> > code Gremlint doesn't understand inside a query is just handled as if it >> > was a single word, and left as is. I'm not too familiar with >> > language-specific differences between different Gremlin-implementations, >> > but it is my impression that it should already handle JavaScript Gremlin >> > quite well. For .NET I assume I would need to add support for more than >> > just single-quote strings (this would come in handy for all languages), >> and >> > for Python Gremlin it would need to handle backslashes between each new >> > line of the query. Gremlin for Clojure would probably be more >> challenging >> > (fun fact: The Gremlint parser is actually based on a Clojure parser I >> > wrote earlier). >> > >> >> .NET might not be hard to format but I sense translation will not be easy >> given how easily Gremlin loses types >> >> >> > Food for thought: >> > One thing I've been a bit back and forth on is whether it would be >> > preferable if Gremlint is super-robust and accepts and formats any >> language >> > you pass it with minimal configuration, or if it should only accept one >> > Gremlin implementation "at once" and require the user to manually >> specify >> > the language of their input. >> > >> >> From the perspective of a user interface, I don't think it's necessary to >> have too much magic. Ifi t could simply detect a language and make a good >> guess at it and then allow users more fine grained control from there that >> would be pretty impressive, but if they had to wholly make the step of >> selecting the language themselves I don't think that's terrible. >> >> >> > >> > fre. 20. nov. 2020 kl. 14:53 skrev Stephen Mallette < >> spmalle...@gmail.com >> > >: >> > >> > > Thanks for another update. Nice to know you're still moving along with >> > > improvements there. Perhaps we could continue with general discussions >> > > about Gremlint while we wait for legal issues to settle? For instance, >> > one >> > > of the things on my mind is how to make gremlint functionality as >> > available >> > > as possible to the various use cases we say each day. Obviously, it >> > > currently handles the most common one of providing a place to paste >> some >> > > Gremlin in a UI and get back formatted Gremlin. What about other >> things: >> > > >> > > 1. there are many Gremlin "development environments (e.g. gremlify, >> > Gremlin >> > > Console, notebooks, etc) - how can gremlint be available to them? >> > > 2. we are working on Gremlin translators in all languages - which >> might >> > > actually allow us to generate documentation using a single source for >> > > Gremlin with translation to all the others. But, that can only work >> if we >> > > have something like Gremlint to format those translations. How would >> > > gremlint fit in there? >> > > 3. gremlint (i think) is generally good at formatting the Groovy/Java >> > > syntax - what will it entail to make it so that it's capable of >> dealing >> > > with other languages like Python, .NET etc. >> > > 4. thinking more about 2, I wonder how gremlint fits with translators. >> > the >> > > two seem quite related to me, but i'm not sure what that means. it >> seems >> > > cool if you could take a bit of Gremlin Groovy, paste it into gremlint >> > then >> > > translate/lint to Gremlin Javascript. >> > > >> > > I'm just posing questions here for us to discuss a bit. Answers are >> great >> > > but more questions would also be welcome if anyone has any. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:11 AM Øyvind Sæbø <oyvind.s...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hello everyone and happy November. >> > > > >> > > > I requested another update on when the Gremlint paperwork process >> would >> > > be >> > > > done yesterday. It seems like it has been pushed back once again, >> the >> > new >> > > > estimate being two weeks from now. >> > > > >> > > > I figured I should give some context on why this is taking longer >> than >> > > > expected. After all, filling out the ICLA and CCLA shouldn't take >> more >> > > than >> > > > a day. Since I developed Gremlint in my spare time, and we want to >> > donate >> > > > it on behalf of Ardoq, where I work, we have an internal IP transfer >> > > > process as well, and this is what has been dragging out. >> > > > >> > > > In the meantime I've been trying to make the best of the situation >> by >> > > > working my way through the remaining Gremlint issues on GitHub. As >> part >> > > of >> > > > that I've rewritten Gremlint < >> https://github.com/OyvindSabo/gremlint> >> > to >> > > > be >> > > > a separate package which can be imported in the Gremlint.com >> website, >> > > which >> > > > now resides in a different repository >> > > > <https://github.com/OyvindSabo/gremlint.com>. >> > > > >> > > > Let's hope I can report on more progress next time. >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
