Seems like there's some grey area here. Surely private companies that qualify as "users" of the stack can provide feedback and insight as to how it's used, it's limitations and how it can be improved for their use case - which is what Jon is doing -. Then it's up to the community to decide what to do (if anything) and individuals at the company in question are open to participate (as individuals - legality) to the implementation so long as it stays community driven.
At least that's my understanding. Daniel can confirm/refute. As such I think what Jon means by "steered" would be more accurately described as to initiate or to incept? Cheers, Dylan. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Jonathan Schneider < [email protected]> wrote: > I hope this is simply another case of misunderstanding. > > I do not mean to imply that there should be some relationship between > Netflix as an organization and the Tinkerpop project, merely that there are > a number of parties that are working on different sides of this problem and > it would be beneficial to have a quick live discussion about whether > Tinkerpop fits into this or not. > > The word "call" may have implied a private meeting as well, which was not > at all the intent. Can we host something on Apache Hipchat, Hangouts, or > whatever other medium is available that would allow anybody to join? > Perhaps recorded? > > Daniel - I hope you don't mean to imply that there can be no collaboration > between ASF projects and open source projects that happen to be steered by > private companies. That seems painfully limiting if true. > > Jon > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:04 PM Daniel Gruno <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 10/10/2015 07:43 PM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: > > > Hello Jon, > > > > > >> Netflix has recently released a similar library called Falcor > > >> <http://netflix.github.io/falcor/>. They are optimized for slightly > > >> different uses, but are both angling at solving the over/under > fetching > > >> problem and are more or less equivalent. > > > > > > Gotcha. > > > > > >> Netflix has a need for a solid binding between Falcor/GraphQL and > > Tinkerpop > > >> immediately and I'm sure several of us could help. Could we set up an > > >> introductory call with the Netflix UI Engineering, Platform, and > > >> Engineering Tools teams that are all hacking at this from different > > angles? > > > > > > Excellent. Yes, lets have a call. However, before I commit lets wait > for > > an answer to: > > > > > > MENTORS: Is it "okay" to have a phone call (thus "off list") with a > > commercial entity to talk about their use of TinkerPop and about > potential > > collaborations? > > > > > > > It's not okay for the Tinkerpop project, and it's not okay to discuss > > this on the dev list. > > If you, as an individual, want to make that phone call, fine, but as a > > project, Tinkerpop must be completely vendor neutral. > > > > Companies cannot - I repeat cannot - collaborate with a project. They > > can sponsor items (without their branding on), and they can pay devs to > > program as *independent individuals* (provided they gain the merit for > > this), but companies themselves cannot contribute to an ASF project and > > likewise, the ASF cannot contribute to or collaborate with companies. > > > > With regards, > > Daniel. > > >
