We can keep any existing ssh code if we like.

In terms of why TomEE, as mentioned here’s are some of the benefits:

 - show the TomEE ecosystem is a bit bigger than just the server
 - provide a clear pattern for “crazy new ideas” to start here that could 
potentially benefit TomEE or other EE related-projects
 - more opportunities to earn commit
 - give the community a boost

We used to get a lot of committers in based on EJB improvements, however since 
that spec has slowed and is not moving forward, I think we need more 
opportunities for people to earn commit.

In terms of G.  Obviously as co-founder of the project and someone who spent 9+ 
years on it full-time under 3 different employers, I have a different 
relationship to the name.  I think it’s great there’s new blood in G, including 
you, imagining a new future for it.  But my heart is really in TomEE.  When I 
look at Geronimo I see my past, when I look at TomEE I see my future.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own goals, hopes and dreams, I just want to 
be clear where my heart is at.


-- 
David Blevins
http://twitter.com/dblevins
http://www.tomitribe.com

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:43 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Does it mean we drop the ssh module?
> 
> Why ot going incubator to promote the portability of these projects?
> (Whatever you do, if tomee subproject it is perceived as tomee bound). Are
> they too small?
> 
> Why not geronimo subprojects since it is the official umbrella project now
> - vs tomee is not until we rediscuss it transprojects.
> 
> Really sounds weird to me to try to push it in tomee when we agreed to do
> it in G weeks ago, what am I missing?
> 
> Le 11 août 2017 22:58, "David Blevins" <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:20 AM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Reusable components make sense they are clearly distinctable. The part
>> which contains that reusable components imo must get a different brand name
>> than TomEE.
>> 
>> Sheldon would stay named Sheldon.  Chatterbox would stay named
>> Chatterbox.  They’d get their own JIRAs.  They’d just be hosted here on you
>> could get to them via the tomee.apache.org website.
>> 
>>> The problem here is: TomEE does a really bad job in pointing out these
>> ties! If TomEE would kind of cumulate this progress and make it clear that
>> this makes it into TomEE, then it would be much clearer that there is no
>> standstill but actually tons of activity.
>> 
>> I think this is a great topic you should lead.
>> 
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 

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