Thanks for the detailed status Richard.

For 1/ I sent my opinion. The vote is outgoing and I'd keep the fix you did
for now without any "cheap" system properties. I'm not a big big fan and
it's a major release. So I'd go lazy instead of eager on this one and see
if really it's harmful or not.

For 2/ I can help you tomorrow if you want/need.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com


On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 7:14 PM Zowalla, Richard <
[email protected]> wrote:

> To give a more detailed view / update from the spec tck party regarding
> activation and mail:
>
> (A) Geronimo Activation 2.0
>
> After a first milestone (M1) and some additional fixes after running
> the activation TCK [1] and related signatures tests, we are now passing
> them.
>
> JL prepared a release artifact (1.0.0), which is currently under vote.
>
> During the tck work, we found some inconsistency / unspecified
> behaviour of "normalizeMimeTypeParameter" of ActivationDataFlavor.
> While this method is tested in the TCK on the basis of the reference
> implementation neither the spec itself nor the javadoc are really clear
> about the "right" return value. At the moment, we adjusted it to pass
> the TCK test in question.
>
> There is an ongoing discussion at dev@geronimo if this is a desired
> behaviour or if a system property should be introduced in order to
> reduce the possibility of breaking some users.
>
> (B) Geronimo Mail 2.0 / 2.1
>
> The current mail impl has some TCK failures. It seems, that we need to
> do some additional work to get it compliant with the standalone mail
> tck [3].
>
> The signature tests are failing for Java 11 but are fine with Java 8
> [4] due to some usage of Object#finalize() and missing annotations
> (only available in Java 9+) in the Geronimo implementation. While it is
> not that important for EE9, we need to keep it in mind for EE10.
>
> We currently pass 166 out of 321 mail tck tests [5]. I guess, we need
> to give it some more love to get the numbers up and finally get it to
> pass the mail tck. The good thing is, that we already pass the javamail
> tests for TomEE [6].
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
> [1] https://jakarta.ee/specifications/activation/2.0/
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/h8twm4rmdxt67fx227nyywjp96b6cky1
> [3] https://jakarta.ee/specifications/mail/2.0/
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-6834
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-6835
> [6]
>
> https://tck.work/tomee/tests?build=1651841331620&path=com.sun.ts.tests.javamail
>
> Am Dienstag, dem 24.05.2022 um 15:44 +0200 schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro:
> > Alright, time for a new update.
> >
> > TomEE 8.x with JDK8 and EE8 is equivalent to TomEE 9.x with
> > JDK11/JDK17 and
> > EE9.
> > The build is still not full green, but it's time to start grabbing
> > user
> > feedback as we discussed.
> >
> > So the work started to take every single piece we fixed or patched to
> > start
> > doing releases and if possible run TCK + signature Tests.
> >
> > David did activation and mail milestones. Richard used the milestone
> > to fix
> > and we are now under vote for activation 2.0 final and Richard is
> > making
> > some awesomeness on the mail spec and impl. We should be able to get
> > final
> > versions soon.
> >
> > We also have an OWB vote starting today for a jakarta compatible
> > version
> > (including TCK).
> > Next step is to release a milestone for jakartaee-api 9.1-M2 and move
> > on.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 9:29 AM Wiesner, Martin <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Best
> > > Martin
> > > —
> > > https://twitter.com/mawiesne
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 11.05.2022 um 19:00 schrieb Cesar Hernandez <
> > > [email protected]
> > > <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> > >
> > > +1, Thank you!
> > >
> > >
> > > El mié, 11 may 2022 a las 9:06, Daniel Dias Dos Santos (<
> > > [email protected]<mailto:
> > > [email protected]>>)
> > > escribió:
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 11, 2022, 12:00 Zowalla, Richard <
> > > [email protected]<mailto:
> > > [email protected]>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am fine with it: +1
> > > ________________________________
> > > Von: Jean-Louis Monteiro <[email protected]<mailto:
> > > [email protected]>>
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2022 15:57:54
> > > An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > > Betreff: Re: TomEE 9.x - from javax to jakarta namespace
> > >
> > > Alright, with the latest changes pushed yesterday and today, we are
> > > now
> > > at
> > > the exact same numbers for TomEE 8.x / Jakarta EE 8 under JDK8 and
> > > TomEE
> > > 9.x / Jakarta 9.1 under JDK17.
> > >
> > > If everyone is ok with it, we can create a new milestone and give
> > > users
> > > the
> > > opportunity to provide us with some feedback and to report bugs.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 7:06 PM David Blevins <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Was checking out the TCK numbers this morning can make to suggest a
> > > 9.0.0-M8 while things look good and found this amazing email.
> > >
> > > The 9.0.x branch is looking absolutely amazing!!!
> > >
> > > What do we think about pushing out a 9.0.0-M8 while things are in
> > > their
> > > peak-stable state?  I'm sure we'll have to rip up a few more things
> > > to
> > > finish off the remaining Jakarta EE and MP TCK issues.  Would be
> > > great
> > > to
> > > have something that isn't M7 to fallback on as a reference point to
> > > track
> > > regressions.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 10, 2022, at 3:56 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Time for some reporting....
> > >
> > > On our journey to migrate TomEE over from javax to jakarta
> > > namespace,
> > > we
> > > had many issues.
> > > After updating all our code, we had to do a bunch of dependency
> > > upgrades
> > > after upgrading many of them (OpenWebbeans, BVal, Geronimo, etc).
> > >
> > > We then faced many issues with non compatible libraries for example
> > > (ActiveMQ, commons-dbcp, CXF, sxc, taglib, etc). So we ended up
> > > repacking
> > > them in our own groupId after using the Maven Shade plugin to
> > > relocate
> > > the
> > > packages.
> > >
> > > We worked on BVal TCK and CDI TCK and we are close to passing them.
> > >
> > > But we had before to solve all our outdated MicroProfile 1.3 stack
> > > to
> > > the
> > > most recent and jakarta compatible version. Geronimo
> > > implementations
> > > being
> > > far being, we decided to use some SmallRye implementations until we
> > > can
> > > dedicate some time to update our Apache implementations (config,
> > > metrics,
> > > health, openapi, opentracing, fault tolerance).
> > >
> > > Our build is now more stable, but still not green. Some issues are
> > > basically easy to fix and most people could do it (examples for
> > > instance).
> > >
> > > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Tomee/job/master-build-full/
> > >
> > > The integration for openapi, opentracing and fault tolerance is not
> > > done
> > > and we are far from passing the TCK. On config, metrics and health
> > > we
> > > are
> > > close. Same for our JWT implementation.
> > >
> > > I also wanted to have a view on the platform TCK, so I decided to
> > > stop
> > > TomEE work in order to spend time on the Platform TCK to do all
> > > dependency
> > > upgrades and get the TCK to run properly. I'm pleased to announce
> > > that
> > > after 2 weeks of hard work, we are 99% compatible
> > >
> > > https://tck.work/tomee/build?id=1652104572445
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone for the help.
> > > Keep going and if you need some guidance or help, let us know.
> > >
> > > For coordination purposes, here is the issue
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-3862
> > > Many subtasks are there and you can create new tasks when needed
> > > and
> > > ask
> > > any committer to assign it to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 11:13 AM Zowalla, Richard <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes - we already yanked it in 9.x
> > >
> > > Gruß
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > Am Donnerstag, dem 05.05.2022 um 10:10 +0100 schrieb Jonathan
> > > Gallimore:
> > > Sounds good. I'll drop the transformer from the 8.x branch (looks
> > > like we
> > > don't use it in 9.x), and I'll create a single example to
> > > demonstrate
> > > it in
> > > a sandbox.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:32 PM Zowalla, Richard <
> > > [email protected]<mailto:
> > > [email protected]>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > You are right - we can remove it imho from 8.x as we do not test
> > > with
> > > it and the transformed samples might not even work, e.g.
> > > dependencies
> > > are not migrated, etc.
> > >
> > > +1 for providing a (bigger) example.
> > >
> > > Gruß
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > Am Mittwoch, dem 04.05.2022 um 11:17 +0100 schrieb Jonathan
> > > Gallimore:
> > > I've picked up a task related to the examples:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-3873. I specifically
> > > went
> > > for
> > > this, as I added the Eclipse Transformer to the build for a
> > > number of
> > > examples in the past, back when we were doing the transformation
> > > process on
> > > TomEE itself. The drawbacks here is that any tests in the
> > > examples
> > > run on
> > > the javax code, and we just "assume" that the transformed
> > > artifact
> > > works. I
> > > would suggest removing that for the master build, as it just
> > > takes
> > > build
> > > time, and the examples should be transformed from javax to
> > > jakarta at
> > > source (if they aren't already). On the TomEE 8 build, we could
> > > select a
> > > few examples (no need to do them all) and find a way to run the
> > > tests
> > > on
> > > both javax and jakarta versions of TomEE.
> > >
> > > Additionally, it would likely be useful to add documentation to
> > > this.
> > > If we
> > > also wanted a bigger example application that specifically covers
> > > transformation, I could look at that too.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:58 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've been working for quite a long time on TomEE 9.x, and it's
> > > been
> > > more
> > > challenging and painful than I was expecting. I thought it
> > > would be
> > > good to
> > > give you some sort of status.
> > >
> > > I created a PR for the work. As a reminder, since Java EE moved
> > > to
> > > Eclipse
> > > to become Jakarta EE, we had a switch from javax.* namespace to
> > > jakarta.*
> > > namespace. This is an impacting change, since all applications
> > > and
> > > applications servers are built on top of it.
> > >
> > > In TomEE, we decided to do that change in TomEE. We had
> > > previously
> > > a
> > > bytecode change approach like an application could do. It
> > > worked
> > > and we
> > > were able to get certified. But it had a lot of limitations, so
> > > we
> > > had to
> > > do the migration in the code and fix all compatibility issues.
> > >
> > > Here is the PR https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/814
> > > It has 90+ commits and nearly 5000 files touched (added,
> > > removed,
> > > updated).
> > > I understand it's a lot and it makes it almost impossible to
> > > review. But I
> > > did not see much approaches in this scenario to create smaller
> > > PRs.
> > >
> > > I created a Jenkins build though available at
> > >
> > > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Tomee/job/master-build-quick-9.x/
> > >
> > > It makes it possible to track the progress. There have been
> > > steps
> > > forward
> > > and steps backward.
> > >
> > > All the code does not sit under TomEE, we use a bunch of third
> > > party
> > > projects and libraries. I have been able to contribute, publish
> > > jakarta
> > > compatible versions and get releases for some of them (Jakarta
> > > EE
> > > APIs Uber
> > > jar, Geronimo Connectors and Transaction Manager, Geronimo
> > > Config,
> > > Health,
> > > Metrics, OpenTracing, OpenAPI. OpenJPA, BVal, and OpenWebBeans
> > > will
> > > be
> > > released soon.
> > >
> > > The big parts is CXF, and ActiveMQ. I had to get them done in
> > > TomEE
> > > and
> > > update all group/artifact ids. It's under deps, alongside with
> > > SXC,
> > > DBCP,
> > > and others.
> > >
> > > In terms of removal, I tried to remove old stuff like SAAJ Axis
> > > 1
> > > integration, JAX RPC, Management J2EE and a couple of other old
> > > things.
> > >
> > > A lot of other libraries got updated to their latest version
> > > when
> > > available
> > > in the new jakarta namespace.
> > >
> > > I'm starting to get all the build stable and many modules are
> > > passing now,
> > > including all CXF webservices, OpenEJB Core, and others. I can
> > > get
> > > a build
> > > and run TomEE.
> > >
> > > Goal is to get a green build asap so we can start working on
> > > TCK.
> > > The "quick" build is now green. Working on the full build.
> > >
> > > I'll soon be creating a branch for TomEE 8.x maintenance and
> > > merge
> > > the PR.
> > > I'm hoping we can then have small PRs or at least more people
> > > working in
> > > parallel.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Atentamente:
> > > César Hernández.
> > >
> > >
>

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