Hi,

I look forward to the discussion on the general list - I hope we get some
great feedback from that, including specific guidance if someone thinks
we're not ready. If you don't try... you don't know....

--Carol P.

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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Gunnar Tapper <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> IMO, this project is ready for TLP application.
>
> As a matter of fact, I suspect that TLP will help attract contributors
> spanning from users to coders and all other forms of contributors.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Dave Birdsall <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Regarding getting more contributors:
> >
> > Seems like there are two issues. One is overcoming the learning curve of
> > contributing, as you mentioned; the other is finding people who would be
> > motivated to contribute to this particular project.
> >
> > I think we can address the first with more tutorials on our web site
> and/or
> > wiki. Already there is an excellent tutorial on UDFs. Contributing in the
> > engine is a more complicated endeavor, but perhaps with appropriate
> > internal
> > documentation and descriptions of debugging tools we can lower the bar.
> >
> > The second issue is more difficult. There are many ways to contribute, of
> > course. UDFs has been mentioned in the past. Perhaps we can cultivate a
> > culture of users contributing some of their more interesting UDFs.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roberta Marton [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:31 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Tradofion TLP (top level project) status
> >
> > We entered Apache Incubation May  24, 2015 so we have been incubating for
> > about a year.
> >
> > We have completed 2 major releases and there is a patch release in
> > progress.
> >
> > Once the patch release completes,  we support:
> >
> > -          Source tar files
> >
> > -          Binary tar files
> >
> > -          Distribution support for vanilla Apache, Hortonworks, and
> > Cloudera
> >
> > -          Apache web site and wiki
> >
> > -          Up to date documentation
> >
> >
> >
> > With the patch release, we believe all licensing issues have been
> > addressed.
> >
> >
> >
> > So the next decision is whether we should apply for top level project
> > status.
> >
> > The Trafodion PMC discussed this topic and the impression is that
> Trafodion
> > is doing well in many aspects - it has a large community, gets a lot of
> > contributions (code, documentation, testing, etc.) and has a vibrant
> > conversation going on in the email lists, particularly on the development
> > side. The main problem is that still too many folks are working for the
> > same
> > company, Esgyn. So, in terms of raw numbers we are good, but we might not
> > be
> > diverse enough as measured by number of independent organizations.
> >
> > What does everyone in the dev group think?  If we have to increase our
> > diversity, how can this be done? Given the complexity of Trafodion it is
> > not
> > easy for a new contributor to become a committer without a lengthy
> learning
> > curve.
> >
> >
> >
> >       Roberta
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>

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