On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:29 AM, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Simon Laws <simonsl...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:27 AM, ant elder (JIRA)
>> <dev@tuscany.apache.org> wrote:
>>> Aggregate JARs don't work with Maven
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>>>
>>>                 Key: TUSCANY-3721
>>>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3721
>>>             Project: Tuscany
>>>          Issue Type: Bug
>>>            Reporter: ant elder
>>>             Fix For: Java-SCA-2.0-Beta1
>>>
>>>
>>> The new aggregate JARs don't work with Maven because the shade plugin isn't 
>>> configured to promote transitive dependencies which that means all the 
>>> individual module jars are still included as transitive dependencies and 
>>> added to the classpath. Updating the shade config to promote transitive 
>>> dependencies also doesn't work as the shade plugin doesn't work with pom 
>>> type dependencies.
>>>
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>>
>> I've yet to try this out and really understand what the issue is here
>> so my next comment may be rubbish but....
>>
>> I wonder whether this really matters. We have other poms that describe
>> the contents of aggregate jars so do we need the user to be able to
>> depend on the aggregated jar itself from Maven?
>>
>
> I'd like to fix it as i prefer the aggregate jars to the pom type
> approach. If they are fixed then that question could be flipped around
> to be: if we have the aggregate jars do users really need to use the
> pom type dependencies?
>
> To put this in (my) perspective look at whats common practice in other
> projects. I can point at lots of projects that aggregate small modules
> into easier to manage and use aggregate jars. On the other hand i
> don't know of a single other project in the world that you use with a
> pom type dependency. Take the Tuscany build as an example - it uses
> zillions of dependencies but not a single one is a pom type
> dependency. What ever the pros and cons the pom type approach is much
> less common, and that makes sense to me as fewer jars and dependencies
> is simpler.
>
> I think its good to try to have Tuscany work in as normal a way as
> possible because that makes it easier for people getting started with
> Tuscany. This is why i keep on trying have things be "normal" in
> Tuscany - the Maven build to use the standard build commands, the IDE
> setup to use standard IDE set up, the Tuscany APIs to match what the
> SCA specs describe, etc, the aggregate base jar is just more of that.
> Fine if people also want to experiment with other approaches too but i
> think we should strive have the more commonly understood approaches
> work as well where possible.
>
>   ...ant

I'll give it a go as I'm still not clear what the actual problem is.

Simon

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