Hi Henry, Thanks for initiating the discussion about graduation.
About the subscribers of the dev@list, it is currently have 60 subscribers, comparing to 27 about a year ago (01/31/16 vs 01/22/15). Terence On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> wrote: > HI Patrick, > > Sorry for the late reply, was trying the time to gather the information. > > If you look at the email archive [1] you can see the dev@ list contains > good amount of emails. > This include messages from Github Pull Requests mirror and JIRA > discussions. > The new features development and design had always been made to public for > discussions. > > I am not admin for dev@ list so I do not have numbers about how many > increase of subscriber. > > And the community has released about 7 good releases [2] > > From start of incubation it added only 1 new PPMCs member but it is not > because lack of trying. > The community has presented in Apache Con 2014 [3] and add information to > public sites [4] [5]. > > More importantly, the mentors had not needed to add any advice other than > validate the report. > The releases made were one of the easiest ones to vote for. > > Putting my IPMC hat on, I do not see any reason for Twill to be in > incubator anymore. > > Thanks, > > - Henry > > > [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-twill-dev/ > [2] https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/twill/ > [3] > > http://apacheconnorthamerica2014.sched.org/event/875342b2235e30ec53057352ac7df111 > [4] > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/2609460/hadoop/meet-apache-twill--the-newest-member-of-club-hadoop.html > [5] > > https://jaxenter.com/developing-distributed-applications-with-apache-twill-107728.html > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Henry, thanks for sending this out. Strictly looking at the > > graduation requirements on the incubator wikis I think you're in > > pretty good shape. I agree the community is small, but that might just > > be the way the project is. More the question is is it an open > > community that understands the Apache Way and is ready for tlp status. > > Can you provide some quantitative insight into progress? E.g. number > > of pmc added, committers, etc... diversity of the community. Growth of > > the mailing lists. Some hard numbers that could provide concrete > > insight and help with the evaluation. > > > > I was recently involved in a discussion on the incubator list around > > Sentry graduation. During that discussion someone mentioned the > > following document which it seems some folks are using to evaluate > > graduation readiness. It's not a requirement of graduation, but how do > > you feel the project stacks up when evaluated against it? > > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > > > Regards, > > > > Patrick > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > HI All, > > > > > > I would like to bring up graduation of Apache Twill as top level > project. > > > > > > The community has released several successful releases and have > expanded > > > the PPMC to show openness, and also have done all discussions and > > > development in the open following the Apache way. > > > > > > The podling is indeed small, and so far has not attract much > > contributions > > > from outside world. > > > I think it is bc most development apps for YARN are done mostly by > > > framework developers which sometimes don't mind to spend boiler plate > in > > > exchange for closer control to the lower APIs. > > > > > > However, I believe Twill community has nothing left to learn by staying > > in > > > the incubator. > > > > > > Any thoughts and comments are welcomed. > > > > > > - Henry > > >
