On Friday 24 November 2006 21:30, Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: > Hi John, > > John McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 10:29 +0100, Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg > > > > wrote: > >> John, > >> > >> I would like to request for the UDK project as what Ingrid requested for > >> the Chart. The UDK already is available as a 'standalone' component, > >> namely as the URE (Uno Runtime Environment). > > > > I haven't got a URE icon on my "Start" menu ... or to put it another > > What is the "Start" menu? ;-) > > > way: > > > > $ ls /usr/bin/oo > > oobase ooffice oomath oowriter > > oocalc oofromtemplate ooo-wrapper > > oodraw ooimpress ooweb > > If you want an executable, just search for uno.bin / uno.exe. > > > where is ooure? > > URE (Uno Runtime Environment) is just an abbreviation for a collection > of tools and libraries OOo depends on. Unfortunately names have not been > chosen well (UDK, URE etc.), so I am planning to fix this.
I understand what John is saying here and for the majority of the users of the website what he says is bang on the money. > > As I said, Uno (URE) is the foundation of OOo, if you do not know about > it, that is sad :-( Heh, well be sad for me too, because I have little idea about such ethereal matters either > > My impression is, that you basically think you are the only one allowed > to have an opinion how users and contributors etc. are to be guided > through the main page. That's a bit harsh, John was offering his opinion, an opinion which is as relevant as anyones > From my point of view OOo is build up by its > accepted projects, so these accepted projects very well have the right > to attend to interest. I'm sorry, I don't understand this > > And just another word regarding the terms contributor or contributing. > IMHO these are chosen badly, Agreed, but this was exhaustively discussed by the website team during the last upgrade and nothing better was suggested.... That doesn't mean to say that there isn't a better way, just we haven't found it yet. >I am pretty sure that only a very few > people arriving at the homepage already know that they want to > contribute, especially developers (which we are lacking, in contrary to > users) are mostly curious about how things work, despite wanting to > 'contribute' in the first place. One of the things we need to do is to define why developers would want to contribute their time to the project. I've been working on a marketing pamphlet aimed at developers over the last few weeks. (In response to a little prompting from Erwin :) ) (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=69698) Despite repeated asking no-one has been able to contribute anything to that in terms of elements that are attractive to developers. (other than John that is! ) It would seem to me that to create webpages targeted at developers we would need to be able identify what it is that would make working on OOo attractive to them.... in other words that same type of thing that seems to be so hard to get for the flyer I know that marketing is probably a dirty word amongst developers but what we have here is the need for simple marketing procedures Identify your market Identify their needs/desires Identify how we can fill those needs/desires and tell them. cheers G -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html "GET LEGAL - GET OPENOFFICE.ORG" http://why.openoffice.org ISO 26300 compliant "GET DRESSED - GET OOOGEAR" http://www.ooogear.co.nz Promotional gear for the discerning OOo Advocate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
