I am going to top-post to the original message as I don't want this to be buried 26 levels deep in this thread. Roman's request to pause this discussion makes sense, and I would like to re-enforce it with the following.
I don't like what shape and form this goes. This is ugly, and as a mentor of Z
I am terrified; mainly is because how quickly this stuff went total ape-shit.
Few off-hands comments:
- please, take a good rule of not doing more than 2-3 emails a day on
emotionally loaded threads. It will quickly turn into spit-fight, and this
one already has
- I don't see why the initial PR discussion is coming back like a clock-work
and being a part of everything. What exactly this community is being accused
of and why?
-- PR doesn't get integrated fast enough? We deal with it elsewhere; there
were review process shortcomings, which were discussed and addressed
elsethread. Good progress, I say
-- someone allegedly took(?) somebody's else ASL2 license code and made a
derivative work out of it? Good! This is _exactly_ what the license is
designed to provide: the easy of derivations and contributions. Besides,
the derivative hasn't being offered to Zeppelin (incubation) as a
creation of a different author. This isn't the right forum for such a
discussion, so just stop
-- a community member happened disagreed with PPMC choice of a new PPMC
member? Your opinion has been heard, but no one is obliged to jump every
time you say "frog". [1]
These three are the essence of the dispute, as I see it. None of it does
sound like something that would immediately disqualify the graduation
conversation. On top of it - hanging a project graduation on a feature
request is ridiculous, at least.
There are two main outcomes of this:
- R support integration needs to be carried on as everything else is handled:
comments have to be addressed to the liking of the community and if there's
no technical objection to the code quality and the way the implementation
is done, it should be integrated as everything else. It isn't different
from other PRs, and there's no reason why it has to receive any special
treatment: positive or negative.
Oh, and asserting that someone prevents your code from going in because of
some inferior motives, isn't exactly how you'd like to build the relations
with a community you're trying to join.
- if there's anything that blocks the graduation vote - it needs to be
brought up, unless it has been listed above.
For the sake of this project and the community, I'd suggest the PPMC takes the
control of the situation ASAP.
Cos
[1] I have to admit it was pretty cool, when I was wearing drill-sergeant
badges ;)
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:11PM, Alexander Bezzubov wrote:
> Dear Zeppelin developers,
>
> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like to suggest
> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level project.
>
> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE thread here.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> --
> Alex
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:11PM, Alexander Bezzubov wrote:
> Dear Zeppelin developers,
>
> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like to suggest
> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level project.
>
> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE thread here.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> --
> Alex
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:11PM, Alexander Bezzubov wrote:
> Dear Zeppelin developers,
>
> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like to suggest
> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level project.
>
> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE thread here.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> --
> Alex
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