Sourav, looks like you're attempting to invent some graduation requirements at your own wimp. I am not familiar with anything that mandates a feature-X to be there or the graduation won't happen. Please get familiar with the incubation and graduation semantics before making such wide-brush stokes.
Cos On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 09:11PM, Sourav Mazumder wrote: > This does make sense Moon. Completely agree with you that features are not > important for becoming a top level project > > However, in my opinion, from the practical usage standpoint, without these > two features Zeppelin does not look to me a full fledged top level project. > Curious whether there are any technical glitches which are impediment in > bringing these features to the main branch. Wondering if any help can help > to get those problems fixed. > > Regards, > Sourav > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:22 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > I don't think any feature (R or whatever) should be prerequisites of > > graduation. Especially when a project never setup those features as a > > graduation goal. > > > > Including specific features could be valid concern for release discussion, > > but i don't think it's related to a graduation. > > > > Graduation is much more like if project is doing it in apache way, in my > > understanding. Last time the reason why i didn't go for a graduation vote > > is, because of there were valid concern about contribution impasse. > > > > Since that, community improved / clarified contribution guide and review > > process. And Zeppelin PPMC members were trying to help many contributions > > that they have been as a open PR for a long time. (Especially Jongyoul and > > Felix helped a lot) > > > > So, let's move discussions like 'which feature should be included' to the > > release / roadmap discussion. > > In the graduation discussion, i'd like to have an discussions, such as > > evaluating > > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html, > > etc. > > > > Does this make sense for you guys? Amos, Eran, Sourav? > > > > Thanks, > > moon > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > No Eran is right. The last vote for graduation passed-it was not > > withdrawn > > > in favor of releasing 0.5.6. It passed and there was some feedback from > > the > > > mentors concerning graduation, R, and some other issues. And that's the > > > last public discussion about graduation until today. > > > > > > Alex if you disagree with that do you have links to the discussion emails > > > that you're referring to. > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Eran, > > > > > > > > thanks for sharing your oppinion! > > > > > > > > Could you please check my previous reply about release schedulle and > > let > > > us > > > > know if that makes sense to you? > > > > > > > > By the way, please our mentors correct me if I'm wrong here, but after > > > > reading [1] I was under impression that project does not have > > pre-request > > > > regarding its code or features in order to undergo this formal > > procedure > > > of > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 20:04 Eran Witkon <eranwit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> If I recall correctly R support was one of the pre-requisite for > > > graduation > > > >> from day one. > > > >> I agree that Authentication should be added as well. > > > >> +1 for graduation after we add both > > > >> Eran > > > >> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 20:24 Sourav Mazumder < > > > sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Surely I vote for the same. Zeppelin is already very popular in > > > different > > > >>> quarts of the Spark/Big Data user group. High time to graduate it to > > > top > > > >>> level. > > > >>> > > > >>> However, I shall suggest to have the support for R and Authentication > > > >> added > > > >>> to Zeppelin before that. These are the supports most of the people > > are > > > >>> eagerly waiting for. > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Sourav > > > >>> > > > >>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:23 AM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thanks Alexander for resuming the discussion. > > > >>>> Let's start a vote. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Best, > > > >>>> moon > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:11 PM Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Zeppelin developers, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like to > > > >>>> suggest > > > >>>>> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level > > > >> project. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE > > > >> thread > > > >>>>> here. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> What do you guys think? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -- > > > >>>>> Alex > > > >> > > > > >
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