On 8/20/21 9:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 11:03:27PM +0200, Iago Rubio wrote:
Right now, I was aiming for rarian.

It was orphaned a week ago, but the packager dashboard shows many
dependencies that will be in trouble in a month:

  - dia
  - etherape
  - gconf-editor
  - glade2
  - gnome-search-tool
  - gnome-translate
  - grhino
  - gtk-v4l
  - mail-notification
  - pioneers
  - qalculate-gtk
  - stardict
  - ucview
  - viking
  - xiphos
  - xiphos

There is an email by Mukundan Ragavan on the list stating it was going
to be orphaned because notning depends on it on rawhide.

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/MLIT6EJ4RIWJKW34E7BVGUQMC2AP4QFK/

He used this repoquery to check it out:

# dnf repoquery --releasever rawhide --whatrequires librarian\*
Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:50 ago on Wed 11 Aug 2021 06:03:30
PM EDT.
rarian-compat-0:0.8.1-27.fc34.x86_64
rarian-devel-0:0.8.1-27.fc34.i686
rarian-devel-0:0.8.1-27.fc34.x86_64

But my results for the "rairian" package differ:

[iago@rawhide]$ dnf repoquery --releasever rawhide --whatrequires
"rarian*"
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:26 ago on Thu 19 Aug 2021 10:34:56
PM CEST.
alleyoop-0:0.9.8-18.fc35.x86_64
etherape-0:0.9.18-8.fc35.x86_64
gnome-translate-0:0.99-39.fc35.x86_64
grhino-0:0.16.1-13.fc35.x86_64
mail-notification-0:5.4-100.git.9ae8768.fc35.x86_64
pioneers-0:15.6-3.fc35.x86_64
rarian-compat-0:0.8.1-27.fc34.x86_64
rarian-devel-0:0.8.1-27.fc34.i686
rarian-devel-0:0.8.1-27.fc34.x86_64
ucview-0:0.33-21.fc35.i686
ucview-0:0.33-21.fc35.x86_64

It seems most packages requires rarian-compat as - I guess - most used
it as a replacement for scrollkeeper.

alleyoop          -> rarian-compat -> rarian
etherape          -> rarian-compat -> rarian
gnome-translate   -> rarian-compat -> rarian
grhino            -> rarian-compat -> rarian
mail-notification -> rarian-compat -> rarian
pioneers          -> rarian-compat -> rarian
ucview            -> rarian-compat -> rarian

The other problem stated by Mukundan was: "Last upstream release was in
2008 and this is currently FTBFS on rawhide/F35".

Indeed the package doesn't build, but it's a combination of ancient
autotools & libtool and rpath rpm checks failing.

I got it building on rawhide by fiddling with the sources and now I can
get a working rpm.

I have to put all the commands and patches on the spec file, but it
don't looks like it's going to be a huge problem.

Most Makefile.am files need to be touch, but the changes are minimal.

Should I go fot it or I'd rather search for other package on the wish
list ?

That sounds fine to me to revive it. You might mail Mukundan directly
about it. He may be willing to sponsor you and help out...

I would offer a different opinion here.

I am not sure it's worth keeping rarian alive at this point: any app
that's maintained upstream has by now been migrated away from
scrollkeeper (rarian-compat) and I think removing rarian from the distro
would be a good nudge to remove all the rest of the obsolete packages
that still depend on it.

It's awesome that you are looking for ways to work on Fedora, but I
would rather let rarian go at this point.

--
Kalev
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