Hello I agree with you, that Jolla is currently not in a good financial situation. So a Push Service is for sure not a top priority for them.
Maybee we can get a better acceptance as a community project together with the guys from plasma mobile. Last year they started with great passion to implement a mobile plattform, based on the kde and plasma project. Sooner or later they will get a the point, where this plattform has also the need for a working push service. I will ask in the plasma mobile forum if there is some interesst... Bye Georg 2016-02-08 11:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas B. Rücker <tho...@ruecker.fi>: > On 02/07/2016 12:45 PM, r0kk3rz wrote: > > I wouldn't bet on Jolla hosting such a thing, this was raised by a > > community member some time ago and afaik Jolla didn't show any interest. > > To clarify, there was interest, but only as far as observing my research > into this subject. Given that they constantly had and will have far too > much on their plate and are severely cash limited, this is not that > surprising. A working push service probably never was enough of a > priority, neither in terms of engineer time nor paying someone external > (e.g. me) to get it to work. > > > > For MQTT tbr made a patched apache paho mqtt client which a number of > > sailfish os users have been using quite successfully for some time now: > > https://github.com/dm8tbr/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python > > That's unfortunately a rather old fork of the python library. As I've > coincidentally added TLS capability to the test server yesterday, I'll > be revisiting it soon. Also as I want to look into MQTT over websockets. > > There is also a C/C++ library, libmosquitto. I think I also patched that > with IPHB support at some point, but probably didn't push it to a public > repository. > > > > This could be rolled into a service without too much trouble really. > > Yes, there is a bare bones client service example using it here: > https://github.com/dm8tbr/irssi-mqtt-sailfish > > All it does is forward a two line MQTT message as a Sailfish > notification. I wrote it as a demonstration and to scratch my itch of > receiving IRC notifications on my phone. (There is also a irssi script > counterpart) > > A more proper deployment of a MQTT based push service would be the > direction for any wider use. I did some initial architecture work and > had started exploratory work on Trusor and Nuntius, respectively the > server and client side daemons. This work has laid dormant for about a > year now, as there was no interest from Jolla to invest into it, nor was > there sufficient community momentum. > > Given Jolla's current situation, I very much doubt, that such a service > would be of any priority to justify internal or external investment. So > if, then it would need to come out of the community. > > Actually not just the Sailfish/Nemo/Mer community, but essentially > anywhere in the open source community at large, as such a system could > be universally useful. At that time it would be good to check if there > is anything comparable meanwhile that could be used instead. > > > > However I think the whisper systems guys need to have their own rather > > than relying on android/ios integrated features. Whether this is based > > on MQTT or websockets or some other method of their devising is up to > > them. > > Their choice of using platform notification frameworks sounds sensible. > The downside is, that alternative platforms won't have such services, at > least not with user numbers justifying the engineering effort of adding it. > > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:35 PM, george b <scooterschors...@gmail.com > > <mailto:scooterschors...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I did some more search on this issue. > > > > With libmosquitto and some client implementation (thank you, > > Yuvraaj), the push service may be possbile with the Mer > > testplattform. > > > > The problem with this is, that the guys from whisper systems have > > to include this push service within there server application. But > > I didn't think that they would do this with an experimental server. > > > > So what we really need is to get Jolla or the Mer Project to set > > up a reliable push service with an good API... > > > > See above. > > > > > > Bye > > Georg > > > > 2016-02-02 20:00 GMT+01:00 Yuvraaj <yuvr...@gmail.com > > <mailto:yuvr...@gmail.com>>: > > > > I had ported libmosquitto to Diablo and Maemo so that I could > > use it in my app qgvdial. > > I've even pulled out the class I used into a separate > > repository so that anyone else can use it: > > https://github.com/uvatbc/simplify/tree/master/qt/mqclient > > > > Hope this helps. > > -UV > > > > > > On 02/02/2016 06:04 AM, Tone Kastlunger wrote: > >> AFAIK, someone had putted together a concept-proof push service. > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Erik Lundin > >> <e...@lists.lun.nu <mailto:e...@lists.lun.nu>> wrote: > >> > >> Den 2016-02-01 kl. 19:58, skrev george b: > >> > >> The only missing thing is a working push service to > >> get a real user > >> experience with a messaging application. > >> > >> Does anyone know something about that? I didn't find > >> any good resources > >> about this topic on the internet. > >> > >> > >> There exists a question about that at TJC [1]. One idea, > >> described at [2], seems to be to use an MQTT based > >> service. Not much seems to have happened the last years > >> though. > >> > >> I'm not involved in any of this myself but thought I > >> could share what I have seen, since I also think it would > >> be nice with some push service for SFOS. > >> > >> /Erik > >> > >> [1] > >> > https://together.jolla.com/question/9724/push-notifications/ > >> [2] > >> > https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Middleware/PushNotifications > >> > > Cheers > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >
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