I think, to all practical purposes, that we did eventually win this particular 
fight.

Stef

On 4 Feb 2013, at 16:15, Matt Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just to play devil's advocate here, what's wrong with the free Ordnance 
> Survey API (other than its inscrutable JSON responses)? I can imagine that it 
> will be held up defensively by any ministers contacted by this campaign.
> 
>       http://data.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/doc/postcodeunit/SO164GU
> 
> Is it that it's:
> too incomplete (it doesn't resolve to a street name, just lat/long, country, 
> district and ward), 
> not authoritative (as in, Royal Mail is the original source of post codes), 
> not downloadable, 
> or that the Open Government License it's released under is insufficiently 
> open? 
> Something else? 
> I used it commercially and non-commercially to provide lat/long lookup for 
> postcodes. It's been pretty good.
> 
> Secondly, "The Royal Mail can’t be allowed to exploit this information for 
> commercial gain" is pretty contentious (I'm not sure that's intentional). I 
> think it would be better to argue that Royal Mail shouldn't be able to 
> withhold this data. After all why shouldn't Royal Mail build profitable (or 
> at least self-sustaining) services on top of open data? We'll certainly be 
> trying to! 
> 
> --
> Matt Robinson
> https://lazycat.org/
> 
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 13:22, Owen Blacker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Javier Ruiz <[email protected]>
>> Date: 4 February 2013 13:06
>> Subject: [Okfn-en] Help open up the postcode dataset
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> 
>> […]
>> Data about UK addresses is still locked down, unavailable to the general 
>> public and only accessible with an expensive and complex annual license from 
>> the Royal Mail. Innovators are being discouraged from putting this core 
>> reference data to creative use. British businesses and public services have 
>> to cope with the unnecessary burden of applying and paying for access to 
>> location data.
>>  
>> The Open Data Users Group, a governmental advisory group, has just released 
>> a report calling for a public and open National Address Dataset to replace 
>> the restrictive database that we have now.
>> […]
>> Location data is a critical national asset. The Royal Mail can’t be allowed 
>> to exploit this information for commercial gain. Instead, the government 
>> should make this data freely available as part of our national public 
>> infrastructure.
>> 
>> Ministers will try to hide behind the argument that these issues only 
>> concern a minority of technical experts. This just isn’t true. We need your 
>> help to show them that British citizens are well aware of the crucial 
>> importance of this data and are ready to be vocal about it.
>> 
>> 
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