There seems reason for both, and one (Mavenize it) would be
precondition/blocker for the other[?]


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Reza <[email protected]> wrote:

> I changed it to unassigned. I thought this task was exposing a w3c ddr api
> in the client. Its still a task, I will make a new jira ticket to track it.
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Werner Keil <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Was contrib/w3c/ddr-simple contributed with permission?
>
>
>
> Btw. it's also assigned to Reza at the moment, not sure, if he, Bertrand
> or someone else is the right person to find a place for the artifact, but
> there's already a JIRA ticket for this:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DMAP-38
>
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> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> While there was an outage, the W3C pages related to DDR Simple seem up
> again.
> >This page is very interesting:
> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/DDWG/drafts/api/test-report.html
> >
> >
> >It showed, what compatible implementations existed, and at least in an
> earlier version the most popular and likely commercially successful
> (true;-) WURFL competitor DeviceAtlas did or still does implement it, too.
> Passani's argument it is not used seems bullshit. If it became outdated and
> e.g. DeviceAtlas no longer use those Java APIs, we could also question it.
> Otherwise let's find a way to use it with Maven.
> >
> >
> >Werner
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >Weird, hopefully it's only a side-effect of Hurricane Arthur, but all of
> W3C.org consistently seems DOWN right now, including the DDR API standard
> history.
> >>
> >>
> >>Another reason to not rely on e.g. the JAR the site also did provide for
> historical reasons, but it seems better to find a BINARY distro than having
> to build it from a codebase like the one on GitHub (or elsewhere, not sure
> if W3C itself still has it, but AFAIK just like other standards like HTML5
> you are free to use them without restriction or royalties)
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>It is simply a clone of this:
> >>>https://github.com/fnk/w3c-ddr
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Essentially we would not need the source form in our SVN but the real
> key problem is, whether or not a BINARY Maven artifact can be provided in a
> proper way?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>So far nobody bothered putting it on MavenCentral. Unless there is a
> legal reason W3C would  prohibit that, I guess they just didn't see Java or
> Maven as important.
> >>>So consider it a "mirror" of the Git repo. If the DeviceMap build
> system was flexible enough to grab it from his GitHub repo, then we could
> delete the mirror.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>We must find a way to "Mavenize" the target binary, otherwise there is
> no point in using the W3C Simple DDR and we might have to drop the DDR
> features once and for all
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Werner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Hi (Werner mostly as you committed this),
> >>>>
> >>>>The code under [1] is apparently from W3C, did you have permission
> >>>>from whoever owns its copyright to contribute it to this project?
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't see any license information, and lots of author tags which
> >>>>might indicate ownership - or not.
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't see an urgent need to remove that from our repository, but we
> >>>>should find out whether you were actually allowed to copy it here or
> >>>>not.
> >>>>
> >>>>-Bertrand
> >>>>
> >>>>[1]
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/devicemap/trunk/contrib/w3c/ddr-simple
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

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