Well, at Bertrand mentioned, that w3c api is not owned by this project. So publishing that artifact is not a task for this project, rather, its a task for anyone who can publish on behalf of w3c.
Getting support for the Simple DDR standard is a task for this project. I havent looked at it too deeply, but I believe it might be possible without the w3c jar being published, meaning, we write the API from scratch. I could be wrong... so dont hold me to this. ________________________________ From: Werner Keil <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; Reza <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Was contrib/w3c/ddr-simple contributed with permission? There seems reason for both, and one (Mavenize it) would be precondition/blocker for the other On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Reza <[email protected]> wrote: I changed it to unassigned. I thought this task was exposing a w3c ddr api in the client. Its still a task, I will make a new jira ticket to track it. > > >________________________________ > From: Werner Keil <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:38 PM >Subject: Re: Was contrib/w3c/ddr-simple contributed with permission? > > > > >Btw. it's also assigned to Reza at the moment, not sure, if he, Bertrand or >someone else is the right person to find a place for the artifact, but there's >already a JIRA ticket for this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DMAP-38 > > >Werner Keil | JCP Executive Committee Member, JSR 363 Co Spec Lead | Eclipse >UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Java Godfather >Twitter @wernerkeil | @UnitAPI | @JSR354 | #EclipseUOMo | #Java_Social | >#DevOps >Skype werner.keil | Google+ gplus.to/wernerkeil > > > >* Developer Week: 14/15 Jul 2014, Nürnberg, Germany. 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Werner >Keil, JCP EC Member, Apache DeviceMap Committer will present "Apache >DeviceMap" (GER) > > > > >On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote: > >While there was an outage, the W3C pages related to DDR Simple seem up again. >>This page is very interesting: >>http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/DDWG/drafts/api/test-report.html >> >> >>It showed, what compatible implementations existed, and at least in an >>earlier version the most popular and likely commercially successful (true;-) >>WURFL competitor DeviceAtlas did or still does implement it, too. Passani's >>argument it is not used seems bullshit. If it became outdated and e.g. >>DeviceAtlas no longer use those Java APIs, we could also question it. >>Otherwise let's find a way to use it with Maven. >> >> >>Werner >> >> >>On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Weird, hopefully it's only a side-effect of Hurricane Arthur, but all of >>W3C.org consistently seems DOWN right now, including the DDR API standard >>history. >>> >>> >>>Another reason to not rely on e.g. the JAR the site also did provide for >>>historical reasons, but it seems better to find a BINARY distro than having >>>to build it from a codebase like the one on GitHub (or elsewhere, not sure >>>if W3C itself still has it, but AFAIK just like other standards like HTML5 >>>you are free to use them without restriction or royalties) > >>> >>> >>>On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>It is simply a clone of this: >>>>https://github.com/fnk/w3c-ddr >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Essentially we would not need the source form in our SVN but the real key >>>>problem is, whether or not a BINARY Maven artifact can be provided in a >>>>proper way? >>>> >>>> >>>>So far nobody bothered putting it on MavenCentral. Unless there is a legal >>>>reason W3C would prohibit that, I guess they just didn't see Java or Maven >>>>as important. >>>>So consider it a "mirror" of the Git repo. If the DeviceMap build system >>>>was flexible enough to grab it from his GitHub repo, then we could delete >>>>the mirror. >>>> >>>> >>>>We must find a way to "Mavenize" the target binary, otherwise there is no >>>>point in using the W3C Simple DDR and we might have to drop the DDR >>>>features once and for all >>>> >>>> >>>>Werner >>>> >>>> >>>>On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz >>>><[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>Hi (Werner mostly as you committed this), >>>>> >>>>>The code under [1] is apparently from W3C, did you have permission >>>>>from whoever owns its copyright to contribute it to this project? >>>>> >>>>>I don't see any license information, and lots of author tags which >>>>>might indicate ownership - or not. >>>>> >>>>>I don't see an urgent need to remove that from our repository, but we >>>>>should find out whether you were actually allowed to copy it here or >>>>>not. >>>>> >>>>>-Bertrand >>>>> >>>>>[1] >>>>>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/devicemap/trunk/contrib/w3c/ddr-simple >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
