* Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-05-16 09:21:10]:

> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Colin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can certainly understand where you're coming from, and agree that it
> > would be ideal, but I don't think that Freenet is ready to be promoted
> > by application development.. Currently, when Freenet makes a new
> > revision, that hits Slashdot, Reddit, etc, and encourages people to
> > download.. A new revision of Frost/etc doesn't make a blip, and
> > certainly doesn't spur much action.
> 
> But the same argument could be used in my Java analogy.  Java has a
> far higher profile than many apps written in Java, but it doesn't
> follow that Java should bundle all of these apps.
> 

Heh, java has a frozen API... last time I checked ours is neither frozen nor
even versioned!

[snip.]
> > If you did want to push Freenet-the-service, rather than
> > Freenet-the-program, I'd suggest that for the late .7 and early .8 you
> > continue the focus on making the install simpler.. For example, the
> > project could create a Freenet-for-embedded.zip, which defaults to
> > opennet only, auto-detects it's IP, and joins the network when the .jar
> > is run, rather than asking the user any questions.
> 
> Well, I've been describing Freenet as a platform since around 1999 -
> there is nothing new about this.  I think we do need to do some work
> to make Freenet more easily embedded, possibly as you suggest.
> 

What about fproxy; shall it be separated from fred too ? I think it
should be a plugin to the node.

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