On 08/05/2013 03:19 PM, Robert Hailey wrote: > > On 2013/08/05 (Aug), at 1:57 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >> Freenet has over 900 downloads a day, yet only a small number of >> nodes are added to the network. ... a lot of people are downloading >> Freenet but not reaching the point of having working opennet >> nodes. > > Ouch. But how sure is the network size estimate? Mine only sees 6k > nodes ATM.
The network size estimate I work on is here. [0] 6k nodes is a good estimate for nodes online at any one time, but something closer to 12k nodes are often online weekly. >> So we need to figure out why. My money's on problems with antivirus >> software. > > I wonder if this means there are thousands of would-be-nodes that are > installed, running, and not initialized (no darknet, no opennet). There's a sad thought. > There might be a stat we can collect in this respect.... IMO, we > should have a timer that fires if a node has not been initialized > after N days (1 day? 2?) that makes a HTTP request to the server > saying, "I'm running, but lost"... maybe reporting how many (if any) > wizard screens they got through, esp number of FProxy requests (did > they even hit the first screen!). That sounds like a breach in the security model to me. I do not want to write something for Freenet that phones home. > If your hunch is right, then we should see near-zero "I'm lost" > signals (b/c the software is not getting to the point that it is > running). Okay. > If my hunch is right, we'll see a bunch [800-900/month] of > running-but-cut-off nodes because: (1) maybe the installer-to-browser > transition does not work in every case, or (2) they close the browser > window, and can't find their way back to it (have you seen a "full" > desktop & task tray?), or (3) they get scared off by some step in the > setup wizard. These reasons seem likely, too. I'd be surprised if most everyone was scared off by antivirus. I worked in a computer repair shop a while back and IIRC some people did not have antivirus. [0] http://asksteved.com/pg-stats/
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