Am Samstag, 24. Oktober 2015, 16:11:39 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > On 24/10/15 09:28, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > Am Freitag, 23. Oktober 2015, 16:47:47 schrieb Steve Dougherty: > >> I'm not proposing that we bundle Tor, that this replace the existing UDP > >> transport, nor that it become a typical mode of operation. I'm pointing out > >> a possible use of a TCP transport plugin. I'm also not suggesting we do a > >> whole bunch of Tor-specific discovery/routing work like Matthew mentioned. > >> The initial use case is limited to darknet connections between hidden > >> services. > > Also keep in mind that this would just be a specific application of a > > general feature which hides darknet connections. The most > > time-consuming part of it would be finishing and merging transport > > plugins. > That's a huge project and a long way off. Chetan's changes are huge, and > there's much work still to be done. It's popular on Uservoice, but even > so, it's not the best use of limited time and funds IMHO.
From the experience of watching development in the past years, I do not expect using the Tor plugins to be less work. Back then, Chetan already had an example UDP plugin which replicated what Freenet already did (but I did not get that to run). > And it's not even clear to me that it's the right approach; arguably > real-time network-visible crypto should not be in Java since we can't do > constant time, can't pin pages in memory etc. And Tor transports are > external. So arguably we should have an external C daemon for crypto and > transport layer. That would mean we would not have a plan B if the tor transports would prove to fail. > > And there are already people routing darknet connections over CJDNS. > I guess I'm not totally opposed; there are use cases for darknet > connections tunneled over other networks. You might know somebody as a > pseudonymous identity via e.g. hidden forums. > > But it shouldn't be a priority. Certainly not before we've improved > darknet considerably. I won’t argue priorities here. That did not help anything when we did it before. More exactly: I won’t talk priorities about things where I cannot affect what is done in the end. Best wishes, Arne
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