On 22/04/16 21:31, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Matthew Toseland writes:
>
>> On 09/02/16 08:58, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
>>> Because in normal swapping, as soon as the network settled a bit, the
>>> changes in location should be small (though my nodestats look different:
>>> too large changes in location for my taste…). So the node data should
>>> still be reachable. When randomizing the position, however, the step is
>>> large and the node might settle into a new part of the keyspace, so the
>>> store might not be reachable anymore.
>> Not in all cases. E.g. merging several growing darknets? Is this slow
>> enough that we don't care?
>>
>> OTOH: Can this be used as some sort of DoS? Is 2 hops enough? Etc.
> Maybe this should simply be regular insertion, which however would limit
> the convergence speed.
>
>> This was likely discussed way back when darknet was first proposed,
>> maybe Oskar has an opinion about it ...
> It would be great to recover some of this, given that now more people
> seem willing to actually invest in building friend-to-friend connections
> (though I’m nut sure whether I just have that impression because it
> works for me now).
>
>>> We can’t keep nodes from leaving, but we can keep swapping which spans
>>> large parts of the keyspace from making parts of the datastore
>>> inaccessible.
>> On a hybrid network we still have the aristocracy problem: Because
>> opennet is meritocratic, fast nodes tend to connect to fast nodes. Hence
>> the distribution is likely to be non-uniform - slow nodes will be out on
>> the edge and have poor connectivity i.e. possibly a different mean
>> distance??
> This is not connected to losing store content due to darknet swapping, right?
No, but does it affect the Pitch Black fix? No, because hybrid nodes
don't swap?

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