On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, you wrote:
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> I agree with you on this.  My main gripes with Java are that Java is
> too slow for things like daemons (it is fine for other stuff, though),

This is a fallacy based on experience of slow JREs and bad java code.

> Java is *supposed* to be compatible with everything (but it isn't in
> reality),

But it is a lot more compatible then C is. We have had to make some sacrifices
in order to support Windows, Linux, the other Unixes, and Mac in java due to
minor incompatibilities, but I could count the problems on one hand (and that
is with a team working almost exclusively on Linux, and then having users trying
it on other OSes afterwards).

Tell me will your C code recompile and run outright on Windows?

> Java is a real pain in the ass to use (you have to set up
> stuff like classpaths)

To compile your C well and with the correct dependancies you have to learn an
entire language for make files. To compile java you need to set one variable to
tell it where it can find the classes in question (not unlike your normal PATH
that will need set to run anything) and then everything else is done for you. I
agree, what were Sun thinking????

> , and the Java implementation I have has a major
> tendency to segfault (this is Blackdown - I tried to use Kaffe, but it
> wouldn't compile for some reason).

Blackdown segfaults sometimes (mostly just on stack overflows in the code and
such though in my experience). IBM's 1.3 JDK is at least 2x faster and has
never crashed.

There are bad things about Java (no templates, no templates, no templates) but
pick you'll have to pick your arguments better.

> -- 
> Travis Bemann
> Sendmail is still screwed up on my box.
> My email address is really bemann at execpc.com.

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