Florent Daigni?re skrev: > * Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> [2008-12-12 01:48:40]: > > >> Florent Daigni?re skrev: >> >>> * Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: >>> >>> >>>>> Disadvantages: >>>>> - Have to do some work on emu. >>>>> >>>>> >>> That alone is a good reason why *not* to do it. I don't see why >>> installers should be auto-built nor built from emu for that matter. >>> >>> >> Investing time is a necessary cost for doing anything new. You won't get >> far without investing time in something... >> >> > > True but NEW doesn't imply it's BETTER or even GOOD. >
Good, then we agree - toad posted the list of advantages and disadvantages earlier. > >> Building the installers on emu seems like the most logical thing to me? >> Packaging the files the same place they are compiled seems like a good >> approach. >> >> > > It doesn't to me, for several reasons. The major two are: > 1) Installers have to be signed by 3rd parties because they are > the means we use to bootstrap the trust-chain... And we don't want devs > to store their private keys on emu. > 2) Here you are talking about building a native installer from a > different platform. It's way from being a straightforward operation... > and even though it might be doable in this instance, we can't expect it to > be doable in any case. > 1) And they cannot be signed in the same way the bins are atm.? 2) The topic wasn't really about which platform to pack on, but if to build and pack on the same platform. It isn't preferred to build applications for platform A on platform B, but since we have 1 emu, which runs platform B, we will have to do with that. AHK is supported by Wine, which runs on Linux, so I don't really see the big problem (besides spending time installing Wine, which we already have an argument going on about) > >>>> I'd argue that most >>>> coders can figure out how AHK works quite easily though. There are a >>>> bunch of examples on the AHK site (e.g. >>>> http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/scripts/VolumeOSD.htm) if anyone is >>>> interested. >>>> >>>> >>> We all have soooo much free time on our hands that we would eager learn >>> that new, windows-only technology. Oh, and that's also why we do have a >>> native windows installer since before 0.7 started too btw. >>> >>> >> Can't we drop the sarcastical tone for once, please? >> >> > > What am I supposed to do here? The three options I see are > - ignoring you for good, even on the mailing lists > - being sarcastic > - cry, depress and eventually get drunk enough to forget about the > stupid technical solutions proposed. > > What about: 4) Be mature and discuss the subject in a proper manner for the greater benefit of Freenet I'm not throwing sarcastic comments at you just because I don't agree with you. It would be nice if you was willing to communicate on the same terms. - Zero3
