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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Zero3  wrote:
> Random thoughts after yesterdays discussions: Would it be an idea to
> move towards placing the users' identities in their Freenet FireFox
> profiles?

I for one won't use the Freenet Firefox profile.  The following are
reasons based on my original impression from when it was first
released: (Things may have changed and gotten better, but I won't know
because it gave me a bad first impression.)

It's a pain, I don't like the fact that I can't have a regular Firefox
window open at the same time.  It's obnoxious that I am not allowed to
change the settings.  It is easily corrupted depending on which order
you open and close browsers.

> What you could do:
> - Login, fproxy settings and user identity can be sent via a cookie for

iirc, the Freenet Firefox profile doesn't store cookies.

> the fproxy URL (= not *yet another* set of username/passwords, and no
> hassle implementing digital signature access control and user management).
> - Bookmarks can already be handled by FireFox (which some may not like
> (compared to the fproxy bookmark thingy), and some may like (those who
> wants a new theme without the activelinks) - yet does have advantages
> such as allowing users to use bookmark-manipulating plugins
> (pre-fetchers, bookmark sync, organization, etc.)). fproxy could (needs
> to) still have the default bookmarks, but that wouldn't be a privacy
> concern.
> - Datastore can (and should?) remain shared between users (with some
> privacy concerns, but I believe there are settings for that already?)
>
> I'm not sure about darknet peers. From a network point-of-view, they
> should probably be shared, but isn't that a privacy concern? Or?
>
> - Zero3

imo, things are getting too complex and I suggest we move away from
all of this customization crap.  Trust your users to make their own
decision.  Educate them; this could be handled with a FAQ page built
into the jar with a link on the fproxy homepage.  All this nannying of
the users is insulting.

This project seems to suffer from schizophrenia.  On one hand, the
development is done on Linux with almost no testing on Windows systems
by the devs and little concern for helping them.  On the other hand,
we don't trust them to make decisions and even hide some info from
them and install Freenet as a service without an "opt-out".  Most
software will give the option via a radio button in the install that
users can choose between installing as a service and starting from the
startup folder.  I know its better for Freenet but if it pisses off
users and they uninstall completely and bad mouth us to their friends
it will have the opposite outcome.

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