* Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> [2008-11-26 22:49:14]:

> Ian Clarke skrev:
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> wrote:
> >   
> >>> The aim was to reduce the number of questions we ask during the
> >>> installation to a minimum: on the basis that advanced users can change
> >>> the settings they need afterwards, including whether the node
> >>> auto-starts or not.
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> Indeed, yet that is one of the questions you probably *ought* to ask.
> >>     
> >
> > I don't know - does mysql server ask this before it installs?  I think
> > so long as there is an option to disable, we should default to
> > whatever is better for the network.  The user has volunteered to run
> > Freenet after all.  Remember also that Napster probably wouldn't have
> > worked if they hadn't defaulted to auto-running.  Obviously Freenet !=
> > Napster, but the analogy is valid in this case.
> >
> >   
> 
> I get your point, but most servers with a default install don't sit in 
> the background eating 200 MB of ram and a share of your download/upload. 
> A default MySQL daemon is ~20 MB of ram and zero internet usage.

Mysql is a server but not a peer to peer application.

> I don't 
> know about Napster, but IIRC it had a tray icon serving the purpose of 
> both informing the user of the fact that it was unning, and allowing the 
> user to easily kill it if needed.
> 

Writing a tray icon has been on the todo for a while; there is some code
for it in svn: it's called blueBunny.

Finish it if you think it's important.

> I do understand that whether the default should be on or off is a tough 
> decision, but shouldn't we at least warn the user about it, and provide 
> an easy way to disable it (if enabled by default)?
> 

Huh.

On windows we use services which is the standard way of interfacing with
the OS... and on *nix we provide a start/stop script which is compatible
with init's format. What exactly isn't "easy" here?
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