Florent Daigni?re skrev: > * Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> [2008-11-26 22:49:14]: > > >> Ian Clarke skrev: >> >>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> The aim was to reduce the number of questions we ask during the >>>>> installation to a minimum: on the basis that advanced users can change >>>>> the settings they need afterwards, including whether the node >>>>> auto-starts or not. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Indeed, yet that is one of the questions you probably *ought* to ask. >>>> >>>> >>> I don't know - does mysql server ask this before it installs? I think >>> so long as there is an option to disable, we should default to >>> whatever is better for the network. The user has volunteered to run >>> Freenet after all. Remember also that Napster probably wouldn't have >>> worked if they hadn't defaulted to auto-running. Obviously Freenet != >>> Napster, but the analogy is valid in this case. >>> >>> >>> >> I get your point, but most servers with a default install don't sit in >> the background eating 200 MB of ram and a share of your download/upload. >> A default MySQL daemon is ~20 MB of ram and zero internet usage. >> > > Mysql is a server but not a peer to peer application. > >
Exactly... >> I don't >> know about Napster, but IIRC it had a tray icon serving the purpose of >> both informing the user of the fact that it was unning, and allowing the >> user to easily kill it if needed. >> >> > > Writing a tray icon has been on the todo for a while; there is some code > for it in svn: it's called blueBunny. > > Finish it if you think it's important. > Erm... I was arguing about why autorunning Freenet might not work in the same way as it did with Napster, because of the missing tray icon. I wasn't complaining about the fact that it is missing. So no need to shout "do it yourself" all the time, really. I think I realized your feelings about suggestions after the last 5 times you responded in that way already. >> I do understand that whether the default should be on or off is a tough >> decision, but shouldn't we at least warn the user about it, and provide >> an easy way to disable it (if enabled by default)? >> >> > > Huh. > > On windows we use services which is the standard way of interfacing with > the OS... and on *nix we provide a start/stop script which is compatible > with init's format. What exactly isn't "easy" here? > > I'm quite sure the average Windows user doesn't know how to disable a system service (after he manages to figure out that Freenet has installed itself as a system service...) . The average geekiness among Windows users is much lower than among Linux users, mind you. Obviously, I cannot provide any raw numbers as you probably would prefer, so I guess we won't be getting any further on this matter either. - Zero3
