* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-11-26 23:55:25]:
> On Wednesday 26 November 2008 00:26, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > * Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> [2008-11-26 00:08:17]: > > > > > Matthew Toseland skrev: > > > >> An > > > >> installer that works on all three platforms has many advantages, but > > > >> will never be as smooth or intuitive as platform-specific installers > > > >> because people have differing expectations of each platform. For > > > >> example, Windows users tend to expect a Wizard-style installer. Mac > > > >> users expect a DMG containing an executable App that they can drag to > > > >> their Applications folder. Linux users expect to be able to use > > > >> apt-get, yum, or something else depending on their specific distro. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Unless their specific distro happens to be unsupported. Which is > > > > common, > > > > because the distro market is still extremely fragmented. Hence we need > > > > a > good > > > > GUI installer even for linux. No? > > > > > > > deb and rpm probably covers most of the GUI distros. The "Alien" program > can convert packages to various other formats if needed. > > > > That's not proper packaging. > > It should be possible to provide a .deb which is usable on all debian and > ubuntu variants, no? > > I dunno whether we'll need a separate rpm for fedora vs suse. > If it works everywhere it's not properly packaged. > We already have a gentoo ebuild. > > > > > >> Next, we must identify anything that can be improved in Freenet that > > > >> would make writing these installers easier. > > > > > > > > IMHO moving the "wizard" part into the node itself was an important > > > > step > in > > > > the right direction. We could move the rest into the node by always > > > > downloading the plugins and seednodes file in the installer, and asking > the > > > > user about the plugins during the post-install wizard. Ideally we'd > > > > also > ask > > > > the user about auto-start in the post-install wizard (defaulting on but > > > > executing a script to turn it off if the user asks us to). > > > > > > > I agree. It doesn't seem like that big of a task to move the rest of the > > > stuff into the wizard (now you already have the framework). > > > > Putting stuffs in the wizard goes against the packaging logic. On debian > > you would want to use debconf to ask the user on how to configure his > > node... > > On Windows it makes sense, doesn't it? Well, mostly because we want to > minimise the amount of Windows-specific code we maintain... ideally the > installer would configure Freenet... Windows doesn't even have a packaging system; what are we talking about here? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081128/7e96eb90/attachment.pgp>
