On Thursday 27 November 2008 18:01, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-11-27 17:19:13]: > > > On Thursday 27 November 2008 00:59, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-11-26 23:55:48]: > > > > > > > > > Being hosted at SourceForge, I can't see bandwidth being a problem? > > > > > > > > > > We left SourceForge years ago because of their chronical unreliability. > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, the bandwidth cost for downloading all the plugins on every > > > > install is marginal. > > > > > > > > > > > But since you want some figures: I just did a test install. > > Downloading > > > > > > and setting up the plugins took the installer ~10 seconds on a 2 year > > > > > > old mainstream laptop with Windows XP. The plugins take up 383 KB. I > > > > > > don't know how many people that uncheck any or all of the plugins > > before > > > > > > installing, but I doubt it's a large part. Even if *everybody* > > unchecked > > > > > > all plugins in the installer and we assume nobody will ever install > > them > > > > > > later on, the overhead would be less than 4% of the ~10 MB that was > > > > > > downloaded during the install. In reality, that number will be *much* > > > > > > smaller as many people *will* install the plugins. If SourceForge > > can't > > > > > > keep up with that little extra bandwidth, I'll be glad to donate. > > > > > > > > > > We did call for mirrors a while back, and we usually do before we > > > > > announce any new release. > > > > > > > > > > Right now we have 6 working ones and 13 configured. > > > > > > > > Why are you squabbling over 400K out of 10MB? > > > > > > Because if we go down that path you will end up willing us to ship the > > > full offline installer... and that will prevent us to do statistics on > > > the number of nodes installed/uninstalled. > > > > So the need to get statistics on how many users actually install freenet as > > opposed to how many download it means we have to confuse the user with a set > > of options they will not understand?! The two are unrelated! > > You aren't making any sense here. > > It's not about asking them wether they want to load plugins or not... > It's about bundling everything in the installer OR > nothing and downloading everything at first-run > rather than downloading on demand during the install process.
We don't have to download on first run. We can download in the installer (or bundle in the installer), and still only ask the user about the plugins in the first-time wizard. Thus we reduce the number of steps in the installer, and have all the config done together, in the first-time wizard. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081128/a8cd24eb/attachment.pgp>
