On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> - move the github repo to xwiki-contrib/retired > > I guess you mean "move the github repo to xwiki-contrib" because > merging XEM and retired repository would be a pain (a not even sure it > would work fully). I prefer to just move the repo to contrib and > indicate it's retired like we did for other modules. Yes I agree. We'll just need a README.md to let the users know it's not active anymore. We need to decide on a rule for retired project (not sure we agreed although we discussed it). I also much prefer keeping each extension in its own repo and mention in a README.md about its status. Thanks -Vincent > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote: >> +1 >> >> Thanks, >> Eduard >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Almost everybody has voted so I think this proposal is approved. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/9/13 Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> >>> >>>> On 09/13/2013 08:51 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 09/11/2013 05:58 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau wrote: >>>>>>> Since Enterprise embeds Workspaces by default since 5.2-m2, I think >>> it >>>> does >>>>>>> not make any sense to release XWiki Manager (XEM) anymore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The build is currently broken (because of the XAR organization >>>> changes). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I propose to remove XWiki Manager: >>>>>>> - stop releasing it >>>>>>> - move the github repo to xwiki-contrib/retired >>>>>>> - update manager.xwiki.org to explain the changes in XWiki 5.2. >>>>>>> - move the manager jira to the retired category >>>>>>> - remove the build in ci.xwiki.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is my non-binding +1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LM >>>>>> >>>>>> -1. This is very premature, the new workspaces haven't been available >>>>>> for a long enough time to be sure it is a good replacement for XEM. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do workspaces fulfill all the needs of existing XEM users? >>>>> >>>>> XEM became a workspaces manager in 3.3 (see >>>>> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XEM-202) so there is nothing new here. >>>>> The only difference between the new XE and XEM is that wiki manager UI >>>>> is not included while it was hidden in XEM so it's not a big change >>>>> for users since it's super easy to install with Extension Manager. >>>>> >>>>> XEM is and always been pretty much only a set of pom.xml files with >>>>> dependencies and not much more than a home page. Guillaume moved >>>>> Workspaces from XEM to XE making XEM pretty much useless now. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Does the new implementation offer support for the Farm usage? >>>>> >>>>> You can install Wiki Manager UI using Extension Manager. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a clear migration path? Manual or automatic? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the new wiki management UI going to be at least as easy to use as >>> the >>>>>> old one? What's the learning curve for administrators? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If the build is broken, it's easier to fix it than to upset a large >>>>>> userbase. Why do we insist so much on maintaining backwards >>>>>> compatibility for Java APIs that we're almost certain nobody uses, yet >>>>>> we're OK with dropping an entire product without a proven alternative, >>>>>> hoping that in one or two more releases that alternative will actually >>>>>> be fully implemented? >>>>> >>>>> The point here is that the alternative is XE. We don't remove XEM >>>>> because the build is broken... It simply does not worth the effort to >>>>> keep it anymore since XE expose the same features. >>>> >>>> Given that as a downstream user I don't really use multiwikis in any >>>> way, this doesn't affect me at all. So +1, less code is always better. >>>> One product less means less confusion for users. >>>> >>>> My main complaint was about the backwards compatibility rule that's not >>>> being followed. >>>> -- >>>> Sergiu Dumitriu >>>> http://purl.org/net/sergiu >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> devs mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
