Hi Marius,

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <guilla...@xwiki.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
> > gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Eddy,
> >>
> >> 2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <enygma2...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> > Hi devs,
> >> >
> >> > I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this topic,
> but
> >> in
> >> > my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being confused and
> >> > questions like this [1] start to be asked.
> >> >
> >> > The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic IMO for a
> >> > various number of reasons:
> >> > - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related entries
> (i.e.
> >> > related to the current page), due to its current location (i.e. in the
> >> page
> >> > content)
> >> > - It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry" button
> >>
> >
>
> > More generally speaking, this is true for a lot of livetables. We would
> > need a generic "Create" button to be available when we instantiate a
> > livetable. This could be useful for the wiki index page, for the user
> > directory, for all the AWM homepages...
>
> I guess you like the files live table from the File Manager then :)
>
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Application#HFileLiveTable
> . Would be interesting to have such a toolbar (with support for custom
> buttons) before the live table don't you think?
>

Yes and yes :-)

Guillaume


> > Basically the button would let the user create a new item of the same
> type
> > than the items displayed in the livetable. Right now we do this in an
> > ad-hoc fashion, so it would be great to have a generic solution. It's
> also
> > related to the automatic page name generation module (that we don't have
> in
> > the core yet, though there's an extensions doing it
> > <
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Unique+Identification+Number+Module
> >
> > ).
> >
> > Guillaume
> >
> >
> >> > - from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new location looks
> >> > completely randomly selected:
> >> > -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language specific brains
> >> are
> >> > trained to follow)
> >> > -- it's not exactly at the top either
> >> > -- it's not at the right
> >> > -- it's not next to the type of elements it creates (i.e. next to
> >> > WIKI/SPACE/PAGE)
> >> > -- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen
> >> > - etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind)
> >> >
> >>
> >> Personally, I like the fact that it is located near the Edit button,
> even
> >> if it does not concern the current page. Because it groups the most
> basic
> >> and useful actions that you need when you want to contribute: EDIT, ADD.
> >>
> >> To me, it makes sense.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite an important
> >> aspect
> >> > of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I like :)), it`s
> hard
> >> > to miss.
> >> >
> >> > Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a problem
> here
> >> > with this as well?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Eduard
> >> >
> >> > ----------
> >> > [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rqcxryksa2ckjhpm
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhum...@xwiki.com)
> >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> >> Committer on the XWiki.org project
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