On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <guilla...@xwiki.com>
wrote:

> Hi Marius,
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <guilla...@xwiki.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi again,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
> > > gdelhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Eddy,
> > >>
> > >> 2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <enygma2...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi devs,
> > >> >
> > >> > I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this topic,
> > but
> > >> in
> > >> > my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being confused and
> > >> > questions like this [1] start to be asked.
> > >> >
> > >> > The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic IMO for
> a
> > >> > various number of reasons:
> > >> > - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related entries
> > (i.e.
> > >> > related to the current page), due to its current location (i.e. in
> the
> > >> page
> > >> > content)
> > >> > - It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry" button
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > > More generally speaking, this is true for a lot of livetables. We would
> > > need a generic "Create" button to be available when we instantiate a
> > > livetable. This could be useful for the wiki index page, for the user
> > > directory, for all the AWM homepages...
> >
> > I guess you like the files live table from the File Manager then :)
> >
> >
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Application#HFileLiveTable
> > . Would be interesting to have such a toolbar (with support for custom
> > buttons) before the live table don't you think?
> >
>
>
 IMO the toolbar's functionality is already covered by the 'Actions' column
in the livetable. The only thing missing is the 'Create'

Thanks,
Caty



> Yes and yes :-)
>
> Guillaume
>
>
> > > Basically the button would let the user create a new item of the same
> > type
> > > than the items displayed in the livetable. Right now we do this in an
> > > ad-hoc fashion, so it would be great to have a generic solution. It's
> > also
> > > related to the automatic page name generation module (that we don't
> have
> > in
> > > the core yet, though there's an extensions doing it
> > > <
> >
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Unique+Identification+Number+Module
> > >
> > > ).
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > >
> > >
> > >> > - from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new location
> looks
> > >> > completely randomly selected:
> > >> > -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language specific
> brains
> > >> are
> > >> > trained to follow)
> > >> > -- it's not exactly at the top either
> > >> > -- it's not at the right
> > >> > -- it's not next to the type of elements it creates (i.e. next to
> > >> > WIKI/SPACE/PAGE)
> > >> > -- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen
> > >> > - etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind)
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Personally, I like the fact that it is located near the Edit button,
> > even
> > >> if it does not concern the current page. Because it groups the most
> > basic
> > >> and useful actions that you need when you want to contribute: EDIT,
> ADD.
> > >>
> > >> To me, it makes sense.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite an important
> > >> aspect
> > >> > of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I like :)), it`s
> > hard
> > >> > to miss.
> > >> >
> > >> > Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a problem
> > here
> > >> > with this as well?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Eduard
> > >> >
> > >> > ----------
> > >> > [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rqcxryksa2ckjhpm
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> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhum...@xwiki.com)
> > >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
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