How does an extensions looses it's "Recommended" status? Thanks, Caty
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote: > "Not a core Extension (i.e. not bundled by default in the base XWiki > Distribution)" > > extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Templates+Application/ is > bundled > extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application is bundled > extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/CKEditor+Integration is > bundled > > I find http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ > Notes+Application to be not very complex. > > Missing: > - Blog (which is currently bundled) > - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ > Flash+messages+application > - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/TotemApplication > was also interesting > - what about Repository app? > > Do we also provide a way for users to filter what apps are bundled (and > maybe implicitely supported/recommended)? > What about extensions that have "XWiki Development Team" as author? Are > they implicitly supported/recommended? Is there a way to filter and see > what they are? > What is the difference between supported and recommended? Is it documented > somewhere? Should the users care about this difference? (maybe the answers > are found above in the thread, but I don't remember any conclusion) > > "Don't recommend extensions that are installed as dependencies of other > recommended extensions, unless there are end-user use cases for using them > directly." > This means we don't support the apps dependencies? And in this category we > have some macros: fullcalendar, pdfviewer, etc. > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Latest news: >> >> * I’ve finished reviewing all extensions on e.x.o >> * The list of extensions that I consider recommended (there are 26 as of >> now) is available at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xw >> iki/bin/view/ExtensionCode/RecommendedExtensions/ >> * There are some extensions that I don’t know well enough to know if they >> could be recommended (not sure if they have active support, how well they >> work on latest XE, etc): http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/ >> bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedExtensionsSelection >> >> To @Extension creators: please review the list and let me know if you >> have some extensions that you’d like recommended (make sure to check the >> criteria defined at http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/ >> bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedExtensionsSelection). >> >> Next steps: >> * Modify the extension sheet to visually see when an extension is >> recommended >> * Modify the e.x.o home page to highlight Recommended Extension (see >> http://markmail.org/message/cr5edm27qcag6n3q ) >> * Modify EM to add the notion of Recommended >> * Merge back the new Recommended field in the Repository Application >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >> > On 22 Aug 2016, at 11:20, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > I’ve started a wiki page to track which extensions we’re not sure about >> (whether they should be recommended or not): >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedE >> xtensionsSelection >> > >> > Please edit it if you have opinion/knowledge about them (or reply on >> this thread and I’ll do the syncing). >> > >> > Note that for an app to be recommended it must follow the rules defined >> on >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedE >> xtensionsSelection#HWhatisaRecommendedExtension >> > >> > Thanks >> > -Vincent >> > >> >> On 18 Aug 2016, at 21:00, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> ok I’ve started. >> >> >> >> 3 things: >> >> >> >> * I’ve started defining what we mean by a recommended app, see >> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExtensionCode/Rec >> ommendedExtensions/ >> >> * I’ve processed the first 2 pages of the LT on the home page of >> e.x.o. (ie the first 60 extensions) and I’ve marked 11 as recommended so >> far: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExtensionCode/Rec >> ommendedExtensions/ >> >> * I’m hesitating for the following extensions. Specifically I need to >> know what their authors think and whether they’re ok to support them >> actively. I also don’t know them enough to know of their quality. Feel free >> to comment on them. >> >> >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Recent+ >> Blog+Entries+Macros/ ? >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SunkenF >> lamingoTheme/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RtForm/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Realtim >> e+Netflux+Frontend/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Realtim >> e+Netflux+Backend/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XQuiz/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Conditi >> on+Macro/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Suggest >> +LiveTable+Filter+Macro/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Let%27s >> +Encrypt+support/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Derzela >> s+Script+Runner/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XCarousel/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Wiki+An >> alyzer+Application/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Event+ >> Listeners+Administration/ >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Filter+ >> Script+API Note: we will expose the filter app, should we also expose >> the API? >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ZoneEdit+Macro >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVG+Ras >> terizing+API >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Trusted >> +Headers+Authentication+Adapter >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Trusted >> +authentication+framework >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Mail+ad >> dress+encryptor >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XWikiTube >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XFF+Mav >> en+Plugin Note: wrong author!!! >> >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Rights+ >> UI+Simplifier >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> -Vincent >> >> >> >> The result is here: >> >> >> >>> On 18 Aug 2016, at 19:36, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I’m starting the work on this. BTW several of you have replied about >> EM but this mail was only for “e.x.o” FTM (see the subject). >> >>> >> >>> The idea is to implement something similar to what Caty proposed at >> >>> http://markmail.org/message/cr5edm27qcag6n3q >> >>> >> >>> I’m starting the work. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> -Vincent >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> On 23 May 2016, at 10:39, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi devs, >> >>>> >> >>>> We have a lot of entries on extensions.xwiki.org (869 as of today) >> and this causes some problems for our users: >> >>>> >> >>>> P1) A lot of them are not of good quality (they don’t work with the >> latest versions, they are complex to use, they’ve not been updated for a >> long time and are doing old and deprecated ways of doing things such as not >> providing an entry in the Applications Panel for example, they’re not just >> polished, etc) and this causes frustrations for our users. Note that this >> also reflects on the overall quality of the XWiki project and product. >> >>>> >> >>>> P2) It’s hard for users to locate good extensions among the rest. >> >>>> >> >>>> We’ve started addressing P1) by introducing ratings on e.x.o. This >> is not fully successful so far because we don’t have enough people voting >> and because those ratings are not used to display/filter extensions on the >> Extensions LT or inside XWiki in the EM UI. So we need to continue this >> effort. >> >>>> >> >>>> Note that this proposal is not addressing non-extensions such as >> snippets which we’ll need to move elsewhere at some point but that becomes >> less important with the proposal below. >> >>>> >> >>>> Proposal >> >>>> ======= >> >>>> >> >>>> I’d like to propose an additional strategy that, IMO, is better >> suited for the size of our community: curation. Curation is the process of >> hand-selecting the best extensions and marking them as recommended. The >> idea would be to list recommended extensions first on the e.x.o home page, >> in the EM UI in XWiki and even in extension search results. In the EM UI, >> an idea would also be to have a new “Recommended Extensions” filter in >> addition to the existing filters (core extensions, installed extensions, >> etc) and that would be the default filter on the “Add Extensions” UI. >> >>>> >> >>>> I propose to add a “Recommended” xproperty in the Repository app for >> that. We can decide whether we want this just for e.x.o or committed in the >> Repository app in xwiki-platform. >> >>>> >> >>>> Then we need to decide about the curation process: >> >>>> >> >>>> * The XWiki core committers are in charge (i.e. have the >> responsibility) of monitoring the apps that are marked “Recommended”, ie. >> validating that it’s done correctly. XWiki core committers have the >> authorization to unset an app that was marked a recommended by a community >> member. >> >>>> * We wouldn’t offer a simple way in the UI to mark an extension as >> recommended since we don’t want everyone who has an account on xwiki.org >> to start marking apps as recommended. OTOH we want to allow people from the >> xwiki community to help out. So the way to mark an extension as recommended >> would be to use the object editor (for now, we can define a better >> implementation mechanism later on). >> >>>> * We define some basic rules that extensions need to follow at >> minimum to be accepted as recommended. These will be our guidelines to >> avoid conflict of opinions (although there’s always the possibility in >> which case it’s resolved through a vote): >> >>>> - Need to work on LTS + latest XWiki version (ie. ATM that would be >> 7.4.x and 8.1) >> >>>> - Need to present a polished aspect and be easily usable >> >>>> - Need to follow most of the best practices defined on >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ApplicationDev >> elopmentBestPractices. Some important examples: technical pages are >> hidden, extension is registered in the app bar when it makes sense, >> extension is internationalized (if it makes sense), pages are in xwiki >> syntax 2.0+. >> >>>> >> >>>> WDYT? >> >>>> >> >>>> I’m willing to help do the work and mark extensions as recommended. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks >> >>>> -Vincent >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
