> On 29 Aug 2016, at 17:17, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote: > > How does an extensions looses it's "Recommended" status?
When it doesn’t obey http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedExtensionsSelection#HWhatisaRecommendedExtension Thanks -Vincent > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> "Not a core Extension (i.e. not bundled by default in the base XWiki >> Distribution)" >> >> extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Templates+Application/ is >> bundled >> extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tour+Application is bundled >> extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/CKEditor+Integration is >> bundled >> >> I find http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ >> Notes+Application to be not very complex. >> >> Missing: >> - Blog (which is currently bundled) >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ >> Flash+messages+application >> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/TotemApplication >> was also interesting >> - what about Repository app? >> >> Do we also provide a way for users to filter what apps are bundled (and >> maybe implicitely supported/recommended)? >> What about extensions that have "XWiki Development Team" as author? Are >> they implicitly supported/recommended? Is there a way to filter and see >> what they are? >> What is the difference between supported and recommended? Is it documented >> somewhere? Should the users care about this difference? (maybe the answers >> are found above in the thread, but I don't remember any conclusion) >> >> "Don't recommend extensions that are installed as dependencies of other >> recommended extensions, unless there are end-user use cases for using them >> directly." >> This means we don't support the apps dependencies? And in this category we >> have some macros: fullcalendar, pdfviewer, etc. >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Latest news: >>> >>> * I’ve finished reviewing all extensions on e.x.o >>> * The list of extensions that I consider recommended (there are 26 as of >>> now) is available at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xw >>> iki/bin/view/ExtensionCode/RecommendedExtensions/ >>> * There are some extensions that I don’t know well enough to know if they >>> could be recommended (not sure if they have active support, how well they >>> work on latest XE, etc): http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/ >>> bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedExtensionsSelection >>> >>> To @Extension creators: please review the list and let me know if you >>> have some extensions that you’d like recommended (make sure to check the >>> criteria defined at http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/ >>> bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedExtensionsSelection). >>> >>> Next steps: >>> * Modify the extension sheet to visually see when an extension is >>> recommended >>> * Modify the e.x.o home page to highlight Recommended Extension (see >>> http://markmail.org/message/cr5edm27qcag6n3q ) >>> * Modify EM to add the notion of Recommended >>> * Merge back the new Recommended field in the Repository Application >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> On 22 Aug 2016, at 11:20, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’ve started a wiki page to track which extensions we’re not sure about >>> (whether they should be recommended or not): >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedE >>> xtensionsSelection >>>> >>>> Please edit it if you have opinion/knowledge about them (or reply on >>> this thread and I’ll do the syncing). >>>> >>>> Note that for an app to be recommended it must follow the rules defined >>> on >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/RecommendedE >>> xtensionsSelection#HWhatisaRecommendedExtension >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>>> On 18 Aug 2016, at 21:00, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ok I’ve started. >>>>> >>>>> 3 things: >>>>> >>>>> * I’ve started defining what we mean by a recommended app, see >>> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExtensionCode/Rec >>> ommendedExtensions/ >>>>> * I’ve processed the first 2 pages of the LT on the home page of >>> e.x.o. (ie the first 60 extensions) and I’ve marked 11 as recommended so >>> far: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExtensionCode/Rec >>> ommendedExtensions/ >>>>> * I’m hesitating for the following extensions. Specifically I need to >>> know what their authors think and whether they’re ok to support them >>> actively. I also don’t know them enough to know of their quality. Feel free >>> to comment on them. >>>>> >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Recent+ >>> Blog+Entries+Macros/ ? >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SunkenF >>> lamingoTheme/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RtForm/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Realtim >>> e+Netflux+Frontend/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Realtim >>> e+Netflux+Backend/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XQuiz/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Conditi >>> on+Macro/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Suggest >>> +LiveTable+Filter+Macro/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Let%27s >>> +Encrypt+support/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Derzela >>> s+Script+Runner/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XCarousel/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Wiki+An >>> alyzer+Application/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Event+ >>> Listeners+Administration/ >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Filter+ >>> Script+API Note: we will expose the filter app, should we also expose >>> the API? >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ZoneEdit+Macro >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVG+Ras >>> terizing+API >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Trusted >>> +Headers+Authentication+Adapter >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Trusted >>> +authentication+framework >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Mail+ad >>> dress+encryptor >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XWikiTube >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XFF+Mav >>> en+Plugin Note: wrong author!!! >>>>> - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Rights+ >>> UI+Simplifier >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>> The result is here: >>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Aug 2016, at 19:36, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m starting the work on this. BTW several of you have replied about >>> EM but this mail was only for “e.x.o” FTM (see the subject). >>>>>> >>>>>> The idea is to implement something similar to what Caty proposed at >>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/cr5edm27qcag6n3q >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m starting the work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 May 2016, at 10:39, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi devs, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a lot of entries on extensions.xwiki.org (869 as of today) >>> and this causes some problems for our users: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P1) A lot of them are not of good quality (they don’t work with the >>> latest versions, they are complex to use, they’ve not been updated for a >>> long time and are doing old and deprecated ways of doing things such as not >>> providing an entry in the Applications Panel for example, they’re not just >>> polished, etc) and this causes frustrations for our users. Note that this >>> also reflects on the overall quality of the XWiki project and product. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P2) It’s hard for users to locate good extensions among the rest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We’ve started addressing P1) by introducing ratings on e.x.o. This >>> is not fully successful so far because we don’t have enough people voting >>> and because those ratings are not used to display/filter extensions on the >>> Extensions LT or inside XWiki in the EM UI. So we need to continue this >>> effort. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note that this proposal is not addressing non-extensions such as >>> snippets which we’ll need to move elsewhere at some point but that becomes >>> less important with the proposal below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Proposal >>>>>>> ======= >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’d like to propose an additional strategy that, IMO, is better >>> suited for the size of our community: curation. Curation is the process of >>> hand-selecting the best extensions and marking them as recommended. The >>> idea would be to list recommended extensions first on the e.x.o home page, >>> in the EM UI in XWiki and even in extension search results. In the EM UI, >>> an idea would also be to have a new “Recommended Extensions” filter in >>> addition to the existing filters (core extensions, installed extensions, >>> etc) and that would be the default filter on the “Add Extensions” UI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I propose to add a “Recommended” xproperty in the Repository app for >>> that. We can decide whether we want this just for e.x.o or committed in the >>> Repository app in xwiki-platform. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then we need to decide about the curation process: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * The XWiki core committers are in charge (i.e. have the >>> responsibility) of monitoring the apps that are marked “Recommended”, ie. >>> validating that it’s done correctly. XWiki core committers have the >>> authorization to unset an app that was marked a recommended by a community >>> member. >>>>>>> * We wouldn’t offer a simple way in the UI to mark an extension as >>> recommended since we don’t want everyone who has an account on xwiki.org >>> to start marking apps as recommended. OTOH we want to allow people from the >>> xwiki community to help out. So the way to mark an extension as recommended >>> would be to use the object editor (for now, we can define a better >>> implementation mechanism later on). >>>>>>> * We define some basic rules that extensions need to follow at >>> minimum to be accepted as recommended. These will be our guidelines to >>> avoid conflict of opinions (although there’s always the possibility in >>> which case it’s resolved through a vote): >>>>>>> - Need to work on LTS + latest XWiki version (ie. ATM that would be >>> 7.4.x and 8.1) >>>>>>> - Need to present a polished aspect and be easily usable >>>>>>> - Need to follow most of the best practices defined on >>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ApplicationDev >>> elopmentBestPractices. Some important examples: technical pages are >>> hidden, extension is registered in the app bar when it makes sense, >>> extension is internationalized (if it makes sense), pages are in xwiki >>> syntax 2.0+. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m willing to help do the work and mark extensions as recommended. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> -Vincent >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
