Hi,

As I`ve mentioned in the other mail, I`d prefer "Base" or "Minimal" (as
Vincent mentioned as well), mainly because I would not want users to be
encouraged to use it directly, but instead, to use a flavor that builds on
top of the Base and brings value (like the "Standard" flavor does).

Now, I`m getting a bit confused here as to the nature of this base flavor.
Is it a flavor or is it a distribution? Do we also have an XWiki "Base"
distribution (war) that is slimmed down to support at least the XWiki Base
*flavor*, and anything else will be installed with EM, according to what
any additional "extended" flavor instructs (i.e. through its dependencies)?

Thanks,
Eduard

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> If we want to use this flavor as a dependency for the other Flavors that
> will be built on top, than I would like it to be called just "XWiki", so
> your 1).
> All the other flavors built on top would have composed names like "XWiki
> KB", "XWiki Groupware", etc.
>
> Otherwise my vote goes to 3) Base or Basic.
>
> I think we should first define what this contains. For me it should not
> just be EM, but all the default XWiki capabilities to create content: from
> administration, to users, to templates, to editors, to viewers, to
> livetable, to navigation, etc. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 3 Apr 2017, at 17:22, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 3 Apr 2017, at 16:18, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi devs,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Since 8.0 we have in xwiki-platform a flavor simply called "XWiki
> > >>>> Flavor" which contains more or less the strict minimum to have
> > >>>> something you can call an XWiki instance (Administration, Extension
> > >>>> Manager, a home page, etc.).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Since we want to promote the new Knowledge Base flavor have a
> > >>>> concurrent called "XWiki" is not really making it a favor so we
> should
> > >>>> probably find another name for it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Here are some ideas:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1) "XWiki" Flavor, it's Ok after all
> > >>>> 2) "Default" Flavor
> > >>>> 3) "Base” Flavor
> > >>>
> > >>>> 4) "Lite" Flavor
> > >>>> 5) "Mini" Flavor
> > >>>> 6) "Minimum" Flavor
> > >>>> 7) "Pico" Flavor
> > >>>> 8) <another word that means small> Flavor
> > >>>
> > >>> This raises a question: Why do we have such a flavor? I don’t think
> we
> > need one if we have the KB flavor.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>> The only flavor that would make sense to me is a “Base” flavor that
> is
> > **empty** (ie no wiki pages) and that serves as a common base minimum for
> > other flavors. It would contain the bare minimum to have an XWiki
> runtime.
> > >>
> > >> Note sure what is your point exactly. You want to discuss if it's
> > >> allowed to install it as flavor or if it's only a dependency of
> > >> another flavor ?
> > >
> > > My point is that we should only offer 2 things:
> > > 1) the KB flavor
> > > 2) or let the user not choose any flavor and have an empty wiki (no
> wiki
> > pages and minimal set of core extensions)
> >
> > So you want to remove this flavor. You don't need to install any
> > flavor to have an empty wiki.
> >
> > >
> > > What is the “XWiki Flavor” right now? You mentioned that it contained
> > wiki pages (such as home page):
> > >
> > > "contains more or less the strict minimum to have
> > > something you can call an XWiki instance (Administration, Extension
> > > Manager, a home page, etc.).”
> > >
> > > This doesn’t look like the minimum to me.
> > >
> > > So the first thing to agree is about the scope of this “base” flavor.
> > Then we can name it.
> >
> > When it was introduced it was defined as the flavor containing what we
> > think is common to any kind of flavor, the core UI extensions
> > basically like you have the core jar extensions on the WAR side.
> >
> > >
> > > If it’s a minimal empty flavor then the best name for me are:
> > > - “Minimal"
> > > - "Base"
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Vincent
> > >
> > >> Thanks
> > >>> -Vincent
> > >>>
> > >>>> I don't think keeping "XWiki" is such a great idea. Default is even
> > worst.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I like "Lite" but might sound too much like "the very limited free
> > >>>> version, you are going to have advertisement in a month" theses
> days.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If I had to vote for only one it would be "Mini" but I'm fine with
> any
> > >>>> of the following proposals.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Thomas Mortagne
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Thomas Mortagne
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Mortagne
> >
>

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