Steffen, who did a lot of the Windows builds, passed away sometime ago.  I’m 
not aware of anyone filling that gap.


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From: dia-list <dia-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of Michael Ross via 
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Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 1:22 pm
To: discussions about usage and development of dia
Cc: Michael Ross
Subject: Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia

I believe that Steffen (managed producing a windows installer) and Hans Breuer 
(who was the main decision maker about the direction of development) have 
passed on to their next incarnation. I think Tomas was suggesting to contact 
Gnome personnel.  Ownership of the project is locked up and we need to get a 
new owner defined.

Many people agree that Dia is worth more development, but there is this 
bureaucratic impediment that must be solved.

There is a full archive of past posting to this list and there was some method 
that the developers used for communication that was not exposed to the public.  
These would be very instructive to review.  One of the reasons for the success 
of Dia was a fairly strict development path that kept the code light and 
efficient.  There was always a care to let the users find workarounds in 
preference to producing elaborate, but single purpose functions.  A lot of 
effort went into interfacing.

If you look through past Dia list postings you can see how many people would 
take up using the program and without living with it for very long, then start 
demanding enhancements (without any willingness to participate in code 
development).  A common result of opensource in a corporate code world.  Hans 
would fend off these requests if there was an existent workaround.  I think 
this was a good philosophy.

I have been using Dia since the early 2000's.  I don't write code so I do what 
I can with it as it is and find other solutions when needed.  Inkscape and GIMP 
are good partner tools.

The day will come when I can't get whatever OS Microsoft puts out to work with 
Dia. So I hope some folks will take up caring for DIa again.  I will only be 
able to run 32 bit programs for a limited time I fear.

 Mike

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 12:38 PM Eduard Nicodei via dia-list 
<dia-list@gnome.org<mailto:dia-list@gnome.org>> wrote:
Hi All,

I know this has been asked before but I would like to voice my support as well.

I saw Tomas Pospisek's (CC'ed) message on the Dia mailing list some time ago 
about maintaining Dia and getting fixes merged into upstream ("Doing some work 
on Dia").  I was wondering if Tomas or anybody else had time to get in touch 
with Gnome developers / maintainers?

As I replied on the list to a previous email last month, I find it a shame that 
such a useful piece of software is without active development.

In the original "Doing some work on Dia" email, Tomas mentioned:
Anyway, if anybody wants to help:

* triaging bugs
* providing patches or testing patch
* going through dia forks [3] and extracting useful things

I could help out with any of those (been coding in C for more than 10 years) - 
at the current time I can only guarantee a few minutes here and there, though I 
definitely want to get involved.  I was wondering though if I could go about 
these in a prioritised / structure manner?  Or rather what would be the most 
helpful?

Also I'm guessing at the moment there is no real roadmap, etc?  Would it be 
useful first to come up with one?  I'm open to discussion on the dia mailing 
list or IRC channels (though would prefer offline discussion via email / gitlab 
issues).

Tomas Harding also suggested getting in touch with the authors directly, the 
only email I could find was Steffen Macke's (CC'ed) or even with the Gnome 
Bugmaster (also CC'ed).

In any case, I would be really happy to see development on Dia resume :-)

Thank you all for the great work done on Dia everyone!

Best Wishes,
Eduard

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