> It seems that OpenOffice format somehow took a 3.13 megabyte text file
> and made it almost a third of the size,

For what Open office format is a zipped directory of XML files.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:unzip foo.sxw

Archive:  foo.sxw
 extracting: mimetype
  inflating: content.xml
  inflating: styles.xml
 extracting: meta.xml
  inflating: settings.xml
  inflating: META-INF/manifest.xml

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Taran Rampersad wrote:
Cindy Lemcke-Hoong wrote:



Hello Dave,


Actually, it doesn't...it's a speculation on the direction of communications technology, and on what the next
milestones might be.

We can call it 'speculation' or we can call it 'foresight'. But one thing we should look it is the practicality of how much 'power/memory' a person really need? Especially if we are talking about CHILD?

It just occurred to me to check something.
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2600

Tolstoy's 'War and Peace' (infamous for it's size) takes up 3.13
megabytes as uncompressed text. How many large books like that will a
schoolchild need? I feel a bit like Richard Feynman with a shuttle O
ring in a glass of water here, but...

And, if it is compressed - with the ZIP technique - it gets down to 1.16
megabytes.

1 Gigabyte on a USB stick - 640 copies of Zipped 'War and Peace' can fit
on it. 310 copies unzipped. Let's work with unzipped for a more
conservative figure which requires less processing power.

256 megabytes gives us 77.5 copies of 'War and Peace'.
128 megabytes gives us 38.75 copies of 'War and Peace'.
64 megabytes gives us 19.375 copies of 'War and Peace'.
32 megabytes gives us 9.6875 copies of 'War and Peace'
16 megabytes gives us 4.84375 copies of 'War and Peace'.

Back to file size - of course, this is based on actual text files
instead of bloated word processing files. So I decided to check saving
it in two other formats using OpenOffice.org 2.0:

OpenOffice format is 1.32 megabytes.
Microsoft Office 2000 format is 7.59 megabytes (really, download the txt
file and save it with Microsoft Word and see for yourself...)
And, converting to Adobe Acrobat gets us 2.85 megabytes.
HTML format: 3.21 megabytes.

Will the real Slim Tolstoy please stand up?

It seems that OpenOffice format somehow took a 3.13 megabyte text file
and made it almost a third of the size, Microsoft Office 2000 format
made it a little over twice the size, and PDF conversion came up with
about a 30% saving on size. HTML format shows a slight increase, with
the ability to be viewed in a browser (as a text file can be, too).

Umm. So, how much memory does a child need for a year using which software?

But OpenOffice.org - the clear winner here - doesn't play well with less
than 128 megabytes of RAM - we were talking about storage space above.
But... a standard text viewer can operate in at most kilobytes of RAM.

I think this is a good start with some real data. Will the real Slim
Tolstoy please stand up?

Processing power need decreases with the less complex the software, and
let's face it - the most advanced thing a secondary school student will
probably face is calculus. And they use... calculators for that, when
they are permitted (I wasn't, but times change).

Nowadays we could probably stick all of this on a cell phone and use a
cell phone mesh network, which would be really cool, but again we'll
bump into the same problems: Infrastructure and telecommunications policy.

Now, if someone has all the textbooks for a year a schoolchild will need
- Raw Text - let's take a look at it, crunch the number, and actually
build some requirements. But can someone get a publisher to agree to
that? Of course not, we're looking at changing their lucrative business
model. But we could average words per page of each book and how many
pages there are, and go from there. Then there are the images as well -
and we could compare GIF, JPEG and PNG (I have a good idea which will
win in most cases). And the use of images takes us to the minimum of
HTML level for the text itself.

Right now, I think 64 Meg of storage space should be sufficient, if only
the texts were available in an electronic format. And that is the point
that quite a few people have been making throughout the $100 laptop
debate, as well as the debate on any technology... where's the material?

And why are we building machines when we don't even have the material?


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