On Thursday, 27 June 2013 at 13:18:01 UTC, Joakim wrote:
As I said earlier, I'm done with this debate.
There is no point talking to people who make blatantly ignorant
statements like, "Binary blobs are the exception rather than
the rule in Linux, and many hardware vendors would flat out say
'no' to doing any support on them." This assertion is so
ignorant of the facts, it's laughable. :) I have no idea what
to make of Iain's talking about gdc or that it is a "one-man
team" in response to my prediction that ldc could go
closed/paid and obsolete dmd: there is absolutely no connection
between the topics.
As for Luca's long response, it is filled with basic mistakes,
silly and incorrect rehashes of material already covered, or
trivial twits, like the fact that D has a spec but isn't
standardized by any international body. For example, I
originally pointed out several examples of other projects with
existing commercial models and I was told that they're not
"closed." I responded that I never said that they were all
closed, only commercial, and I'm now told that since my
proposed model for D is closed, I'm "misstating" myself. (Slaps
head)
These responses seem written by people who have a very tenuous
grasp on the text I wrote.
Look, I get it, you guys are religious zealots- you tip your
hand when you allude to ethical or moral reasons for using open
source, a crazy idea if there ever was one- and you will come
up with all kinds of silly arguments in the face of
overwhelming evidence that _pure_ open source has failed.
Instead, you claim success when hybrid models bring more open
source into the world, then nonsensically reverse course and
claim that either they aren't actually hybrid or that such
hybrid models are not really "open source," that it's a lie to
call it that. (Slaps head again)
I'm not trying to convince you zealots. You want to keep
banging your heads against the wall for the greater glory of
your religion, have fun with that.
I'm simply putting forward a case for D going the route of the
most successful projects these days, by using a hybrid model,
with a unique variation that I came up with :) and have
successfully used for a project of my own.
Those who aren't religious about _pure_ open source can
consider what I've proposed and my evidence and see if it makes
sense to them.
Most replies to you have been quite measured and reasonable. I'm
not sure what justifies you calling people zealots.