On 2009-01-31 17:03:10 -0500, Chris R Miller
<lordsauronthegr...@gmail.com> said:
Michel Fortin wrote:
On 2009-01-31 15:39:17 -0500, Chris R Miller
<lordsauronthegr...@gmail.com> said:
Anyways, I decided to write up a comparison of the two languages from a
less technical, more deployment oriented standpoint. IOW, examining
how well they perform for the last mile of development: deploying
software.
You talk about IDEs in there, and praise Xcode. Do you know about D for Xcode?
<http://michelf.com/projects/d-for-xcode/>
I never got that working with Xcode 3.0, so I decided to ignore it.
That's sad. There was a time where it didn't work with Xcode 3, but
I've fixed that. If you still wish it to work, please test with the
latest verision and send me be a bug report if you still have problems.
I'm still fixing bugs when I know it c
Unfortunately, these two projects aren't getting much attention these
days, mostly because I can't do much with the current state of the one
D compiler that runs on my PowerPC iBook.
Hm, that'd certainly be an impediment to continuing work with D.
Indeed.
One area I think Objective-C to be very great and that you haven't
touched is for creating stable APIs. In Objective-C, contrary to D and
C++, you don't have to recompile every dependency when reordering,
adding and removing member functions in a class. In 64-bit Objective-C
2.0, you can even add variables to a class without care about
recompiling derived classes. Compare that to D, where exposing a class
as a public API will either force you to not change much that class, or
force your users to recompile every time you make such a change.
Hm, I didn't know that. I'm not sure it is exactly pertinent to the
main focus, which is towards quickly building software which can then
be deployed to a user base relatively quickly and easily. I just
glossed over some language features to give a small peek at the
language's killer features according to me. D's most cool trick is the
ability to implement the functionality of many data structures through
use of its array syntax, and Objective-C is cool 'cause it's C with
objects, sans all the crazy complexity that you run into with C++.
No indeed. I was just mentionning something I admire very much about
Objective-C which makes it very good to build stable yet evolving APIs.
Something which neither C++ nor D has.
--
Michel Fortin
michel.for...@michelf.com
http://michelf.com/
