On Wednesday, 26 June 2013 at 00:40:48 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 26 June 2013 10:15, H. S. Teoh <hst...@quickfur.ath.cx>
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 09:58:59AM +1000, Manu wrote:
> On 26 June 2013 08:16, Jonathan M Davis
> <jmdavisp...@gmx.com> wrote:
[...]
> > I was very surprised by how many valuable discussions and
> > interactions took place outside of the talks. I don't
> > think that
> > that value can be overestimated. For instance, I suspect
> > that almost
> > all of us view Manu somewhat differently from having
> > interacted with
> > him in person. He's still somewhat abrasive in person but
> > nothing
> > like he is online. You get a very different view of
> > someone from
> > interacting with them in person, and I found that many
> > discussions
> > were far more effective when we had the opportunity to
> > discuss stuff
> > in person informally rather than in the newsgroup (as
> > valuable as
> > discussions here can be).
> >
>
> Brutal! ;)
Heh... I must say, watching Manu's talks gave the necessary
context to
interpret his online writing style, which are actually *not*
abrasive as
some might construe them to be. It's a case of "lost in
transit": online
text is notoriously bad at conveying the author's emotions and
tone of
voice (that is to say, not at all), so an offhand joke or
casual remark
can be wrongly taken to be a personal attack when there is no
such
intention on the part of the author. Getting to know a person
(in person
:-P) makes a big difference in how you interpret what he
writes.
Haha, well I'm glad to hear that!
I think it's safe to say that my generally blunt and perhaps
somewhat
northern-australian inflammatory sense of humor just doesn't
translate to
text.
I've also never involved myself in any online community before,
and just
write basically how I talk. Believe it or not, I'm actually a
friendly guy!
...or at least, I like to think so... ;)
Don't worry. Those of us in the #d IRC channel knew you were a
friendly guy :P. This is why I'm surprised people are talking
about you like you are aggressive or abrasive rather than just
passionate about subjects you know a lot about. Real time
interaction, even through text, can do wonders for getting to
know someone's tone.
