On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 04:42:00 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
On 21/01/16 5:21 PM, Anon wrote:
Seeing the recent extern(C++) threads, and much concern therein, I'd
like to propose DIP87: http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP87

Destroy to your heart's content.

It was great until I saw:
extern(auto, "myMoveTo:")

After all:
extern(C/C++/D/Objective-C[, string])

Is that string meant for raw mangling or effect mangling in the form of selector?

Just no, leave @selector alone I think.

I don't know ObjC, so I had to wing it on the details there. The strings in extern(<Foo>, "str") would get sent through Foo's mangler. For ObjC, I currently imagine those strings forming the selector, much the same way it is specified through @selector. That ObjC's mangling mostly consists of 's/:/_/g' is irrelevant. I want *all* language binding to happen with a uniform interface. No more one-off hacks for a particular language (which is exactly what extern(C++,ns) and @selector are).


You have the same problem with c++ namespaces.

I don't see a problem. You'll have to be more specific.


Perhaps this is slightly wrong.
extern(string)
Is the only way to force a specific mangling.

There is no extern(string) in this proposal, nor is there a way to force a specific mangling, which (AFAIK) was only introduced to allow linking to C symbols that happened to be keywords.


Where as extern(C/C++/D/Objective-C[, string])
with the string altering in C++ and Objective-C mode.

It mangles regardless. Any and all of the extern(<Foo>) modes mangle. That C's mangling is to just return the input string is irrelevant.


So the only difference is extern(string) vs pragma(mangle, string) Little harder sell, but I think might be worth it for cleaning up the language.

The difference is that it can mangle symbols correctly, even if the symbol is a D keyword.

Currently:

extern(C++) pragma(mangle, "delegate") int delegate_();

...yields a mangled name of "delegate", and there is no way to get the compiler to mangle the symbol correctly. Meaning you have to (ab)use pragma(mangle) and provide it with the full mangled name yourself. And `version()` it appropriately to deal with gcc/clang vs MSVC/DMC mangling.

With this DIP:

extern(C++, "delegate") int delegate_();

... would yield a mangled name of "_Z8delegatev" (or similar).

I thought I did a good enough job of explaining that in the DIP so I wouldn't have to here.

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