Bill Baxter wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Justin Johansson <n...@spam.com> wrote:
Bill Baxter wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Lars T. Kyllingstad
<pub...@kyllingen.nospamnet> wrote:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Yigal Chripun" <yigal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:he6sqe$1dq...@digitalmars.com...
Based on recent discussions on the NG a few features were
deprecated/removed from D, such as typedef and C style struct
initializers.

IMO this cleanup and polish is important and all successful languages
do
such cleanup for major releases (Python and Ruby come to mind). I'm
glad to
see that D follows in those footsteps instead of accumulating craft
like C++
does.


As part of this trend of cleaning up D before the release of D2, what
other features/craft should be removed/deprecated?

I suggest reverse_foreach and c style function pointers

please add your candidates for removal.

s/reverse_foreach/foreach_reverse/ ;)

1. Floating point literals without digits on *both* sides!!! "1.", ".1"
--> Useless hindrance to future language expansion!

2. Octal literals! I think it'd be great to have a new octal syntax, or
even better, a general any-positive-inter-base syntax. But until that
finally happens, I don't want "010 == 8" preserved. And I don't think
the
ability to have an octal literal is important enough that lacking it for
a
while is a problem. And if porting-from-C really has to be an issue,
then
just make 0[0-9_]+ an error for a transitionary period (or forever -
it'd at
least be better than maintaining "010 == 8").
It would definitely be a problem if octal literals disappeared from the
language, even if only for a short while. They are pretty much the only
sensible way to specify POSIX file permissions.

 import core.sys.posix.sys.stat;
 ...
 chmod("path/to/file", 0755);
Well you can always do..

chmod("path/to/file", octal(755));

--bb
octal(755)?

What's the base-10 identity of that?

decimal(493) or decimal(755)?

base-16 etc.

Fine.  Make it octal!"755" if you prefer.
The point is just that you can write a function that will convert a
number to octal for the rare cases when you need it.
You don't absolutely need octal literals.

--bb

Thanks for clarifying your position;
I can happily go along with that. :-)
(Sorry if at all I sounded obtuse or curt).
--Justin

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