On Monday, 30 July 2012 at 22:54:59 UTC, Stuart wrote:
I'm about ready to give up here. I like the idea of D, but it's
like using fucking Linux: Absolutely everything needs to be
compiled before you can use it; and nothing will compile
because you need to do fifty other goddamn things that aren't
mentioned in the readme, so you have to post on dozens of
sodding forums for a week hoping someone throws you a bone.
All I want is to be able to write a GUI application using
phrases like "button1.dock = Fill". Is that so much to ask?
Apparently it is.
DFL won't compile. D-IDE doesn't work at all. VisualD crashes
all the time. The Eclipse IDE plugin doesn't work either. None
of the IDEs have any kind of reliable intellisense. The
optional "module" keywords aren't optional. The whole fucking
thing's a shambles, just like everything else designed for
Linux.
It's really getting on my tits. Even using MFC is easier than
this.
You're expecting the same diversity and quality of the toolchain
of a small, relatively new (D2 is from 2007) programming language
as you do from giants like C++ and .NET languages. This is
unreasonable. D is run by a couple of language designers and its
community - there is no backing from massive corporations or
anything like that.
That does not mean we can't have good things - the community is
really pulling its weight, despite its relatively small size (but
growing at a remarkable rate) we have all kinds of great tools,
including three up to date compilers, several on-going IDE
projects, a growing multitude of libraries and bindings, etc.
As for VisualD, a lot of people - including myself - use it
without issue. It has never crashed for me. I recommend you
report your problem to the developer, or join development
yourself. If you just want a stable production environment, start
by disabling the clearly marked *experimental* auto-complete
feature if you have it enabled.
Your swipes at Linux are ignorant and non-constructive. Besides,
D has its roots on Windows, it's not "designed for Linux" in any
way.
Your issues with compiling DFL are rooted completely in your own
ignorance of the C/C++/D compilation model. You have a lot to
learn and you should know that by now. Maybe tone down the
aggressiveness a little; you've been generating a lot of noise
lately.
