Hi Joe,

I told them I would stop using it when the other 9000 or so people that 
downloaded WinDRM stopped using the mode.
I told them If people like K0PFX says that WINDRM is valid to use on the air 
they should contact him too.
He's one of the pushes of the mode.
I also understand that the SCAMP people are looking into both modes.
So I'm sure we will see a specification.very soon published along with source 
code.for both modes.
I would watch both and not stop using it until you received a registered 
complaint letter from the FCC.
Then just respond to them with, "I'm sorry I will not use these mode anymore"
Just a one line statement will pretty much all it will take.  The most 
inportant thing is to always respond and be nice.

I think it was one of my fan club N4ZF??? you know Paul or one of the hate 
KA2HZO racists that is trying to cuase me problems like they have done in the 
past.

73
Ron KA2HZO



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joe Ivey 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Olivia


Well Ron I guess I am in the same boat with you as I have also used both
modes. I have not received anything yet. How did you respond? As of reading
your post below, I no longer have either program on my computer. Answer
direct if you like. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Joe Ivey
W4JSI


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ronchap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Olivia


>
> So then I guess when a web page for Olivia is created like link below for
Olivia and HamDRM.
> Then these digital modes become valid.  What a stupid rule.
> But I guess Wyman Research  had done this way before they released HDSSTV
to the world.
> I was looking at the Part97 rules.  it does not say how much detail has to
be written in the specs as fa as I can tell.
> So I would think that the info written up on the web now for both HamDRM
and Olivia should be valid.
> The only thing i can't find is the source code for Olivia and HamDream aka
(windrm)
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> http://www.svs.net/wyman/examples/hdsstv/
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: ronchap
>   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:35 PM
>   Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Olivia
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>   Don't worry about Olivia anymore here in US at least.
>   The mode is not valid at this time. I'm afraid It's going the way of
MIXW Narrow band pictures,.
>   I received a  Cease and Desist Letter from the regional office to stop
transmitting both Olivia and WinDRM.
>   My call has been forwarded to the FCC for using Invalid modes.
>
>   So much for DRM and Olivia.
>   Maybe this time next year changes to the rules will be made.
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>   Baclk to MFSK16.  Olivia was fun while she lasted.
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> The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/
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