As a matter of interest the first tests with the Olivia mode were made on 05 dec04 in the following format - from OH/DK4ZC to VK2DSG on 14101.5 using 400mw to 2 el quad - here is a copy of the RX text at VK2DSG - It doesnt look much like Olivia as we know it today de les vk2dsg
MFSK log on 05dec2004_214824 91/0/+0: '0 abc', S/N = 101.4/ 7.9 = 12.9 91/0/+1: '0 aoc', S/N = 81.6/ 7.7 = 10.5 154/0/+0: 'defgh', S/N = 96.3/ 9.9 = 9.7 154/0/+1: 'def h', S/N = 81.5/ 9.0 = 9.0 154/1/+0: 'defg\', S/N = 81.2/ 8.5 = 9.6 155/0/+0: 'defgh', S/N = 106.9/ 9.5 = 11.2 155/0/+1: 'Fefgu', S/N = 79.8/ 9.0 = 8.9 191/0/+7: ' j {', S/N = 72.1/ 8.9 = 8.1 217/1/+0: 'ijklm', S/N = 99.4/ 9.4 = 10.6 217/1/+1: 'ijklm', S/N = 90.9/ 9.2 = 9.9 218/0/-1: 'ijkl}', S/N = 79.0/ 9.7 = 8.1 218/0/+0: 'ijklm', S/N = 154.9/ 8.1 = 19.0 218/0/+1: 'ijklm', S/N = 120.7/ 8.5 = 14.2 218/0/+2: 'ij lm', S/N = 86.9/10.8 = 8.0 255/0/+4: 'G G X', S/N = 91.4/11.0 = 8.3 281/1/+2: 'wbp k', S/N = 77.2/ 9.4 = 8.2 282/0/+2: 'wbp k', S/N = 84.4/10.2 = 8.3 282/1/+0: 'nopq ', S/N = 79.4/ 8.6 = 9.2 282/1/+1: 'nopqr', S/N = 88.0/ 8.2 = 10.8 283/0/+0: 'nopqr', S/N = 108.7/ 9.3 = 11.7 283/0/+1: 'nopqr', S/N = 106.9/ 8.3 = 12.8 321/0/-5: ' h U ', S/N = 61.5/ 7.7 = 8.0 399/0/+2: ' X/o6', S/N = 76.6/ 9.4 = 8.1 410/1/+0: 'xyz12', S/N = 113.3/ 7.9 = 14.3 410/1/+1: 'xyz12', S/N = 95.4/ 8.3 = 11.5 411/0/+0: 'xyz12', S/N = 109.2/ 8.7 = 12.5 411/0/+1: 'xyz12', S/N = 95.0/ 8.2 = 11.6 421/0/-7: ' K h ', S/N = 68.3/ 8.3 = 8.2 473/1/-1: 'Fe567', S/N = 81.3/ 9.0 = 9.0 473/1/+0: '34567', S/N = 116.4/ 8.7 = 13.4 473/1/+1: '34567', S/N = 94.1/ 8.8 = 10.7 474/0/+0: '34567', S/N = 91.7/ 8.4 = 10.9 474/0/+1: '34567', S/N = 78.5/ 8.2 = 9.6 510/1/-5: 'oZl3s', S/N = 74.0/ 8.5 = 8.7 538/1/+0: '8~0 a', S/N = 73.1/ 8.7 = 8.4 543/0/-3: '( N$ ', S/N = 56.9/ 7.0 = 8.1 601/1/+0: 'bcdef', S/N = 106.1/ 9.1 = 11.6 601/1/+1: 'bcdef', S/N = 74.4/ 8.7 = 8.6 665/1/+0: 'gh jk', S/N = 108.9/ 9.4 = 11.6 665/1/+1: 'gh jk', S/N = 99.0/ 8.7 = 11.4 665/1/+2: ' yk', S/N = 83.6/10.2 = 8.2 666/0/+0: 'ghijP', S/N = 66.8/ 8.4 = 8.0 681/1/+2: 'U4 T2', S/N = 71.3/ 8.8 = 8.1 723/1/-3: '(PI V', S/N = 64.3/ 7.9 = 8.1 730/1/-1: 'LQn p', S/N = 65.8/ 7.7 = 8.5 730/1/+0: 'lmnop', S/N = 84.6/ 8.0 = 10.5 730/1/+1: 'lmnop', S/N = 71.3/ 7.4 = 9.6 793/1/+0: 'qrst[', S/N = 84.2/10.3 = 8.1 794/0/+0: 'qrstu', S/N = 76.9/ 9.3 = 8.2 794/1/+0: 'qrstu', S/N = 108.3/ 9.7 = 11.1 794/1/+1: 'qOstu', S/N = 85.5/ 9.7 = 8.8 857/0/+0: 'vwxyz', S/N = 73.0/ 8.7 = 8.4 857/1/+0: 'vwxyz', S/N = 78.6/ 9.5 = 8.2 858/1/+0: 'vwxyz', S/N = 97.1/ 8.9 = 10.9 858/1/+1: 'v xyz', S/N = 69.7/ 8.6 = 8.1 907/1/-7: '*U Iv', S/N = 64.5/ 7.8 = 8.2 922/1/+0: '12345', S/N = 74.0/ 8.2 = 9.1 922/1/+1: '1=<c5', S/N = 62.5/ 7.7 = 8.2 986/0/+0: '67890', S/N = 92.5/ 8.6 = 10.8 986/0/+1: '67890', S/N = 72.3/ 8.2 = 8.8 986/1/+0: '67890', S/N = 93.1/ 8.7 = 10.7 986/1/+1: '678Q0', S/N = 70.0/ 8.3 = 8.4 1013/0/-5: 'HJGlR', S/N = 80.1/ 9.6 = 8.3 1017/0/-3: '1 (6Q', S/N = 87.1/10.0 = 8.7 1049/0/-1: ' abcd', S/N = 113.0/10.3 = 11.0 1049/0/+0: ' abcd', S/N = 188.0/ 8.8 = 21.3 1049/0/+1: ' abcd', S/N = 156.3/ 8.2 = 19.2 1049/1/-1: ' abcd', S/N = 95.7/10.0 = 9.6 1049/1/+0: ' abcd', S/N = 137.6/10.0 = 13.7 1049/1/+1: ' abcd', S/N = 121.7/ 9.3 = 13.2 1087/0/+0: ' & C', S/N = 91.9/11.5 = 8.0 1114/0/+0: 'efghi', S/N = 131.8/ 8.6 = 15.4 1114/0/+1: 'efghi', S/N = 106.4/ 8.5 = 12.5 1114/1/+0: 'efghi', S/N = 116.7/ 8.5 = 13.7 1114/1/+1: 'efghi', S/N = 93.8/ 8.6 = 10.9 1141/0/-1: ' G/Bg', S/N = 72.3/ 9.0 = 8.1 1177/0/+0: 'jklmn', S/N = 98.3/ 9.5 = 10.3 1177/0/+1: 'jklmn', S/N = 81.0/ 9.1 = 8.9 1206/0/+0: '3:J ', S/N = 93.1/11.5 = 8.1 1240/1/+0: 'op 8s', S/N = 76.6/ 9.1 = 8.4 1241/0/-6: ' Z_ ', S/N = 83.2/10.2 = 8.2 1241/0/-1: 'opqrs', S/N = 76.1/ 9.0 = 8.4 1241/0/+0: 'opqrs', S/N = 140.4/ 8.6 = 16.3 1241/0/+1: 'opqrs', S/N = 113.5/ 8.0 = 14.2 1241/0/+2: 'opY s', S/N = 85.2/10.5 = 8.1 1241/1/+0: 'opqrs', S/N = 79.5/ 9.0 = 8.9 1241/1/+1: 'o( rs', S/N = 77.7/ 8.7 = 9.0 1292/0/+1: ' yM\', S/N = 68.6/ 8.5 = 8.1 1300/0/+3: ' @&W', S/N = 66.4/ 8.3 = 8.0 1305/0/+0: 'tuvwx', S/N = 98.9/ 8.6 = 11.5 1305/1/+0: 'tuvwx', S/N = 73.4/ 8.1 = 9.1 1306/0/+0: 'tuvw|', S/N = 82.9/ 9.2 = 9.0 1354/1/+4: 'R ] ', S/N = 66.1/ 8.1 = 8.1 1369/0/+0: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', S/N = 82.8/ 9.3 = 8.9 1370/0/+0: 'yz123', S/N = 89.8/ 8.9 = 10.1 1370/0/+1: 'yz123', S/N = 82.9/ 8.5 = 9.8 1376/1/-5: ' !ptJ', S/N = 66.1/ 8.0 = 8.2 1380/1/+2: '|<D[(', S/N = 70.6/ 8.8 = 8.1 1396/1/+7: '(< ', S/N = 69.9/ 8.6 = 8.1 1432/1/+0: '45678', S/N = 107.1/ 8.5 = 12.6 1432/1/+1: '4e678', S/N = 85.8/ 8.7 = 9.9 1433/0/+0: '45678', S/N = 108.5/ 8.9 = 12.2 1433/0/+1: '45678', S/N = 96.2/ 8.6 = 11.2 1496/1/+0: '90 ab', S/N = 82.1/ 9.6 = 8.5 1497/0/+0: '90 ab', S/N = 80.0/ 9.9 = 8.0 1497/0/+1: '90Rab', S/N = 74.4/ 8.9 = 8.3 1498/0/+0: '90 9b', S/N = 86.0/ 9.7 = 8.9 1522/1/+0: '.#CfG', S/N = 93.3/10.3 = 9.1 1560/1/+0: 'cdefg', S/N = 133.8/ 9.1 = 14.7 1560/1/+1: 'cdefg', S/N = 118.0/ 8.9 = 13.2 1561/0/-1: 'ch'f ', S/N = 74.8/ 9.2 = 8.1 1561/0/+0: 'cdefg', S/N = 118.7/ 9.3 = 12.8 1561/0/+1: 'c efg', S/N = 95.7/ 8.9 = 10.8 1604/0/-5: 'F . C', S/N = 67.9/ 8.2 = 8.3 1608/0/-6: '7 U-', S/N = 68.2/ 8.3 = 8.3 1624/1/+0: 'hijkl', S/N = 74.2/ 8.8 = 8.4 1625/1/-1: ' ijkl', S/N = 72.6/ 8.5 = 8.6 1625/1/+0: 'hijkl', S/N = 97.0/ 8.1 = 12.0 1625/1/+1: 'hijkl', S/N = 88.8/ 8.4 = 10.6 1626/0/+0: 'hijkl', S/N = 89.5/ 8.5 = 10.5 1626/0/+1: 'hijkl', S/N = 76.7/ 8.5 = 9.0 1688/1/+0: 'mnapq', S/N = 97.8/ 9.9 = 9.9 1688/1/+1: 'Qn pq', S/N = 74.0/ 9.0 = 8.2 1689/0/+0: 'mnapq', S/N = 79.6/ 9.3 = 8.5 1689/1/+0: 'mnopq', S/N = 89.5/10.3 = 8.7 1689/1/+1: 'mnopq', S/N = 77.9/ 9.0 = 8.7 1690/0/+0: 'mnopq', S/N = 77.3/ 9.5 = 8.2 1742/0/-1: 'F1 6.', S/N = 72.1/ 8.8 = 8.2 1752/1/+0: 'rstuv', S/N = 79.2/ 9.6 = 8.3 1753/0/+0: 'rstuv', S/N = 80.0/ 8.6 = 9.3 1763/0/-5: ' a#8%', S/N = 69.6/ 8.5 = 8.1 1816/1/+0: 'wxyz1', S/N = 109.8/ 8.7 = 12.6 1816/1/+1: 'wxyz1', S/N = 76.2/ 8.5 = 9.0 1860/1/+4: 'nf /y', S/N = 87.4/10.8 = 8.1 1880/1/-1: '-3456', S/N = 66.6/ 8.2 = 8.1 1880/1/+0: '23456', S/N = 104.2/ 8.7 = 12.0 1880/1/+1: '23456', S/N = 77.7/ 8.1 = 9.6 1881/1/+1: ' 34e6', S/N = 70.9/ 8.4 = 8.5 1897/0/-4: ' R IL', S/N = 64.4/ 8.0 = 8.1 1945/1/+0: '[890 ', S/N = 74.4/ 8.5 = 8.7 1945/1/+1: '7890 ', S/N = 68.6/ 8.0 = 8.6 1955/0/+3: '|e|<J', S/N = 61.6/ 7.2 = 8.5 2115/1/-7: ' <', S/N = 96.9/11.5 = 8.4 2198/1/+6: '_eDDJ', S/N = 61.3/ 7.6 = 8.1 2355/0/+2: '(`z",', S/N = 49.0/ 6.0 = 8.1 2411/1/-1: 'X DM ', S/N = 50.9/ 6.2 = 8.2 2531/0/-4: 'F+t ', S/N = 52.0/ 6.3 = 8.2 2769/0/+5: ' C C ', S/N = 49.0/ 6.1 = 8.0 Brad Granger wrote: >Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:14:49 -0000 > From: "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Bandwidth and Olivia > >Howard's assertion was that current US regulations impeded US >amateurs from developing Olivia or PAX. Brad, your statement about >the delayed use of this mode by US amateurs, if true, would not >support Howard's claim. But your statement isn't true either! > >According to its creator, Pawel SP9VRC, Olivia was completed in >December 2004: > >http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/jalocha/mfsk.html > >The first post on this reflector mentioning what later came to be >known as Olivia was made on December 23rd by Ron KA2HZO, who was >already QRV: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/8848 > >This is followed by a blizzard of posts by hams around the world >learning how to install the software and use the mode. > > 73, > > Dave, AA6YQ > > >That was then followed by a blizzard of posts in February by USA hams >(ronchap being one very concerned fellow) trying to decide whether the mode >was legal, trying to ensure sufficient documentation to FCC for approval, >etc. Many ceased operation until the matter was cleared up. > >Saying that Ron was first QRV, doesn't necessarily mean that the mode was >legal, he could have jumped the gun. Indeed, that is what he thought had >happened. The whole ambiguity of the situation needed to be resolved and >there is another blizzard of letters, February, calling for bandwidth based >regs. > >Our new VK regs say "any mode with a necessary bandwidth of less than 8kHz" >SO the whole issue of definitions doesn't happen, and VK2DSG was up there >very very early testing the beta of Olivia making contacts between Europe >and VK at 400mW even under our old Regs. > >If the whole issue is that the ARRL does not seem to have come up with a >companion bandplan, then it is time to address that point, write to them and >get one on paper. > > >Brad. > > > > > >Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to telnet://208.15.25.196/ > >Other areas of interest: >The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ > >Looking for digital mode software? Check the quick commerical free link below >http://www.obriensweb.com/digimodes.html > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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