In defence of WINLINK , it is a really good emergency comms modes especially from remote, off the grid sites..... of which we have many here
 
John
VE5MU
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia frequencies

I just wish someone would explain to me why ham radio needs to be turned
into a free email system, especially for non-hams to use.   I fear this is
just the foot in the door......

Buddy,
WB4M


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia frequencies


> Conversational QSOs don't necessarily turn around every 15 seconds,
> Steve. One could call QRL? and legitimately listen while the unheard
> station is transmitting, and, hearing nothing, activate the remote
> station.
>
> Yes, I have been on WinLink. In fact, you and I have exchanged email
> messages via Winlink. Perhaps your database is not completely
> accurate.
>
>   73,
>
>      Dave, AA6Q
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Waterman, k4cjx"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> You may also mention that that propagation moves in both
> directions.
>> If I am in one location, and here one of the two stations pulsing,
> I
>> would certainly know that there is another station on that
> frequency.
>> So, hearing only one half of the pulsing would certainly tip me
> off
>> that I may interfere if I call. So, what you describe is seldom
> the
>> case. More likely, the station calling just did not pay attention
> to
>> what was on frequency in the first place. Sort of like hearing a
> DX
>> station knowing that when you call, you will QRM. Some just go for
>> it, anyway. But, this is not specific to local and remote
> controlled
>> stations, who do hear one of the two stations pulsing back and
> forth.
>>
>> Ever been on Winlink 2000 to speak from experience?  I don't see
> you
>> in the database. Tell me when you were QRMed, and I will look in
> the
>> log files to verify it.
>>
>>
>> Steve, k4cjx
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > If you can't hear them, likely they can't hear you either, John.
>> The
>> > simple case you cite is rarely a problem.
>> >
>> > With remotely-controlled automatic operation, the situation is
> more
>> > problematic. Say you're remotely controlling a station in Boston
> on
>> > a frequency already in use by a station in Kansas City. You
> can't
>> > hear the station in Kansas City, so you direct the automaticly-
>> > controlled Boston station to proceed. When the Boston-based
> station
>> > transmits, it QRMs the station in Kansas City, who
> (unfortunately)
>> > hears the automatic station just as well as you do.
>> >
>> >     73,
>> >
>> >         Dave, AA6YQ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > At 10:09 PM 1/19/06, you wrote:
>> > > >Has the FCC waived the responsibility to avoid QRMing
>> > > >a station already on frequency?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yes if they can hear them. Key word being  " can " ....
>> > >
>> > > But as you know it is very hard to copy someone close
>> > > to you on some bands. Here at his QTH   I have a ring
>> > > going out to about 250 miles that I can not copy.
>> > >
>> > > Me near St Louis can not copy someone on the same frequency
>> > > in Kansas City.
>> > >
>> > > And it seem that some seem to forget this fact.
>> > >
>> > > John, W0JAB
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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